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To: NYer
The Title of Mary - Jesus calls her “Woman.” In Jewish culture a man could well respectfully call a woman “Woman,” but it was unheard of for a son to call his mother “Woman.” Hence this text stands out as unusual and signals us that Jesus is speaking at a deeper level here. ...So far from being disrespectful to Mary, Jesus is actually exulting her

Hmmmmmm.....

It never ceases to amaze me how Catholics can take something so innocent and make it into something it's not. Our Lord referred to many other people as "Woman" besides Mary. If anything, rather than "exulting" her, He was equating her the same status as the woman at the well, the prostitute, and the woman who lost her son.
30 posted on 01/20/2013 2:33:16 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

Think theologically as John does. He writes several layers deep. We aren’t concocting things at all.


31 posted on 01/20/2013 3:56:04 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: HarleyD

From the Navarre commentary:

4. For the meaning of the words of this verse see the section on our Lady in the
“Introduction” above (pp. 35ff). It should also be said that the Gospel account of
this dialogue between Jesus and his Mother does not give us his gestures, tone
of voice etc.: to us, for example, his answer sounds harsh, as if he were saying,
“This is no concern of ours”. But that was not the case.

“Woman” is a respectful title, rather like “lady” or “madam”; it is a formal way of
speaking. On the Cross Jesus will use the same word with great affection and
veneration (Jn 19:26).

[The sentence rendered “What have you to do with me?” (RSV) is the subject
of a note in RSVCE which says “while this expression always implies a diver-
gence of view, the precise meaning is to be determined by the context, which
here shows that it is not an unqualified rebuttal, still less a rebuke.” The Navarre
Spanish is the equivalent of “What has it to do with you and me?”] The sentence
“What has it to do with you and me?” is an Oriental way of speaking which can
have different nuances. Jesus’ reply seems to indicate that although in principle
it was not part of God’s plan for him to use his power to solve the problem the
wedding feast had run into, our Lady’s request moves him to do precisely that.
Also, one could surmise that God’s plan envisaged that Jesus should work the
miracle at his Mother’s request. In any event, God willed that the Revelation of
the New Testament should include this important teaching: so influential is our
Lady’s intercession that God will listen to all petitions made through her; which
is why Christian piety, with theological accuracy, has called our Lady “suppli-
cant omnipotence”.


32 posted on 01/20/2013 4:00:10 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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