Posted on 02/02/2013 1:48:40 PM PST by NYer
Out of the bad, comes good. Of all the churches, as far as I know, only the Catholic Church has implemented a definitive plan to prevent such abuse from ever occurring again. Anyone coming in contact with children, including religious educators and custodians, MUST be fingerprinted, undergo a police background check and attend two classes on identifying and preventing sexual predatory abuse.
Too little, too late. The only thing the RCC (my former church) could do to even begin down the road to credibility is to end the celibacy rule, require all priests to be married and, it goes without saying, immediately laicize all homosexual clergy. But they won’t do that. Which is why I’ll very probably never return to their sick organization.
Celibacy had nothing to do with the sexual abuse of children. Also, never in the history of the Church was it typical for priests to marry. For married men to become priests? Yes. For already ordained men to become priests? No.
I just took that test for our Archdiocese, as I’m sure you have. Passed it — 100 percent!
Do Lutherans, Episcopalians, Presbyteroans, Baptists, etc. on and on have programs like this for all personnel as well as volunteers?
I just took that test for our Archdiocese, as I’m sure you have. Passed it — 100 percent!
Do Lutherans, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Baptists, etc. on and on have programs like this for all personnel as well as volunteers?
I just took that test for our Archdiocese, as I’m sure you have. Passed it — 100 percent!
Do Lutherans, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Baptists, etc. on and on have programs like this for all personnel as well as volunteers?
You misunderstand my suggestion. I'm suggesting that only married men be admitted to holy orders. I'm also suggesting that all priests suffering with SSAD be laicized immediately, regardless of their behavior. Heterosexual priests can stay without getting married, but their days are numbered, as they won't be replaced by celibates but rather by married men, and within a single generation we'll be shut of them forever.
Does your church have a program for the prevention of sexual abuse to minors?
The Catholic Church does!
Does your church have a program for the prevention of sexual abuse to minors?
The Catholic Church does!
.....And it does include lay people as well.
“Celibacy has everything to do with most of the RCC’s clergy being gay.”
ROTFLMAO!
So all celibates are gay?
Celibacy has nothing to do with pedophilia. Homosexuality is the culprit.
“Celibacy has everything to do with most of the RCC’s clergy being gay.”
ROTFLMAO!
So all celibates are gay?
You want to leave the Church, that's your funeral.
But don't make up pop-pseudo-psychology to justify your departure to yourself.
The Church has always forbidden the ordination of homosexuals. Some trendy, pro-liberal American bishops thought they knew better than the Church and ignored that rule, with predictable and tragic results.
They are mostly gone now - retired or deceased, and the last few are just hanging on. BXVI has appointed good orthodox men to replace them, but it will be awhile before all the damage is repaired.
But at this point there is NO WAY that "most" of the clergy are homosexual. Do a few slip through? You bet. But that's what having fallible humans around will do for you. And the new protection policies will help stop any misbehavior by those few.
Congratulations! Indeed I did pass it ... and the one for the state, 3 times, once for each governor under whom I served.
You wrote:
“Celibacy has everything to do with most of the RCC’s clergy being gay.”
Except they’re not. Granted, in some liberal diocese, there may be many, but that is a recent development of the last 50 years.
“Being gay has a lot to do with being attracted to pubescent boys. So, that’s just not right.”
And it still has nothing to do with celibacy. Notice, you don’t see many nuns being accused of sexual abuse - some - but not many. They’re celibate.
“You misunderstand my suggestion.”
Nope. They were your words. Maybe you just don’t write very clearly.
“I’m suggesting that only married men be admitted to holy orders.”
But that’s never been the case. Ever.
“I’m also suggesting that all priests suffering with SSAD be laicized immediately, regardless of their behavior. Heterosexual priests can stay without getting married, but their days are numbered, as they won’t be replaced by celibates but rather by married men, and within a single generation we’ll be shut of them forever.”
No, you won’t. The Episcopalians made that plain. They had married ministers who were molesting kids and involved in same sex attraction too.
Sexual Abuse of Children by Protestant Ministers. Apologies, the list does not include the sexual abuse of children by Muslim Imams or Jewish Rabbis. If you'd like, I can post that one as well.
“The only thing the RCC (my former church) could do to even begin down the road to credibility is to end the celibacy rule.”
Well, enjoy being protestant then. :)
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