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Posted on 02/07/2013 5:48:40 AM PST by NYer
A chanted liturgy in the Latin Church ... now, that is exciting! This has been the traditional practice in the East and it is quite beautiful.
I hope this means that we will see some serious draining of the Catholic Sappy Liturgical Music Swamp.
We had a priest at a former parish who used to chant the entire Mass. He had a terrible stutter and couldn’t string 5 words together in 10 minutes but he had no problem singing and had a very good voice. His Masses were a thing of beauty. He was also a wonderful human being, truly a holy priest.
We can start by banning “Lord of the Dance”!
LOLOLOL! (banning Lord of the Dance)
This is seriously encouraging news. Our parish uses the "Classic" OCP missalette, which is marginally better than the standard one, but still has a heavy proportion of trash to decent music.
In addition to getting rid of the hideous pop music (including anything by Haugen or Haas) and putting in ALL the old Catholic standards, they need to ditch the tacky 1970s woodcuts at the head of each Sunday. They look like hippy cartoons produced by a 10 year old with limited artistic talent.
Of course, "Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme" or "Sleepers Wake" (one of its English names - "awake" doesn't fit the metre) is not really a Catholic hymn. It was written by Philip Nikolai, a Lutheran pastor and famously set in a cantata by J.S. Bach. But it's sound theologically and should be stolen. We should steal all the good Anglican hymns too.
It was never intended as a hymn by its author, who was a sometime Quaker, and it shouldn't be sung in ANY church. He was surprised as heck when the Catholics picked it up.
It loses its point anyhow when it's sung without the first part, "Friday Morning".
**If you are shocked to hear these things, it is understandable. This is not part of OCP’s reputation. This is because its bread and butter is the distribution of pop music to parish in fly-away resources.**
So true. What a shock to me that OCP has even ventured into chant.
Very encouraging. I recently learned about how lists of songs sung at each Mass must be sent in for copyright and money reasons.
The person I was talking with said that the choir in which they are a member is not singing some songs by a certain author because that author has outed himself. They do not want to support his alternative lifestyle that is against church law.
**In addition, I know for a fact that there are many within OCP who are ready for a change. They have grumbled quietly for years but deferred to the marketing managers at OCP who are convinced that they have to keep doing what they doing or else they lose money. Sometimes it takes a real pastor to show up and say: there is another way and I believe you can thrive by pursuing it. And no matter what you hear to the contrary, many people within OCP will be celebrating this change.**
This internal strife will work to Sample’s benefit in my opinion........please Lord, let us get good Catholic music!
Amen. Things went downhill after Palestrina.
‘Draining the Catholic Sappy Liturgical Music Swamp’ - oh Hallelujah! I will ONLY attend the 7:30 am NO music mass. The music at the other masses is gut-wrenchingly banal, and yes, it is worse than any of the Protestant worship, some of which is quite well done (and some of which is pretty bad).
Oh, I am so encouraged.
Hmmmm .... yes indeed.
Perhaps some mean no insult ... but I do.
The 'past contribution' of OCP, and of entirely too many 'church musicians' has been of negative value. It has not been merely useless, but has actively detracted from the Liturgy, replacing the sacred with the banal, replacing the Catholic with the heretical, and serving only to puff up the already over inflated egos of the self anointed "ministers of music". We would be better off without them at all. Silence, or the spoken word, would be preferable to their 'past contributions'.
Down with the whole bloody lot!
(OCP = Oregon Clown Posse)
“...I will ONLY attend the 7:30 am NO music mass. The music at the other masses is gut-wrenchingly banal...”
YES, YES, SADLY, YES.
A year ago, I made the leap to a Traditional Latin Mass (TLM) group; we are permanent guests in a local R.C. parish.
Every Sunday and holydays, we have TL Mass, and twice a month, is is a Gregorian Chant Missa Cantata; processional and recessional hymns are traditional Catholic hymns, sometimes in English, sometimes in Latin. In accordance with the rubrics of the Latin Mass, offertory and communion hymns are always in Latin.
We(I sing in the Schola Cantorum) have done some of the most beautiful medieval hymns that I have ever heard.
I grew up with the TLM, but I had forgotten how reverent, beautiful, and uplifting an experience it is.
Until now.
If you have the opportunity, seek out a TLM in your area.
Not complaining, because we really don't see enough Perotin, Machaut, Landini or Dunstable -- but it is difficult music based on quite different theories from what we moderns are used to, and it is tough for even very experienced choral singers.
AMEN!
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