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To: rbmillerjr
It’s His Church.

He is involved.

I see no evidence for either of your statements to be true. I see just the opposite.

History is the Catholic Churches biggest critic for their claims of divine guidance or authorship. Well... that and nearly the entire Bible.


47 posted on 02/11/2013 1:56:27 PM PST by MeOnTheBeach
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To: MeOnTheBeach
that and nearly the entire Bible

See post 48.

Glass houses, and all that.

49 posted on 02/11/2013 1:59:02 PM PST by wideawake
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To: MeOnTheBeach

“History is the Catholic Churches biggest critic for their claims of divine guidance or authorship. Well... that and nearly the entire Bible.”

There are those who lack the Grace to see Truth. This is true.


64 posted on 02/11/2013 2:27:33 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: MeOnTheBeach
History is the Catholic Churches biggest critic for their claims of divine guidance or authorship. Well... that and nearly the entire Bible.

Huh? What Bible do you read? Unfortunately, your definition of ‘the church’ cannot be true, unless Christ is a liar. Look at the Church in context of Scripture.

“Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” Mat 5:14-15

So here Christ says His Church will be visible.

“Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. One body and one Spirit: as you are called in one hope of your calling. One Lord, one faith, one baptism.” Eph 4:3-5

The Church is to be one, not many. “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

Here Christ says his Church will not be destroyed.

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.” John 16:12-13

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Here Christ says, and Paul reaffirms, that the Church will always teach the TRUTH.

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."Mat 28:18-20

Again, here Jesus assures us that He is always with us, to the very end.

So Christ says His Church will not be destroyed or fall away from him, that the Holy Spirit will guide the Church to always teach the Truth, and He will always be with us. The Church is much more than a collection of nice people who read a Bible and believe anything they want.

72 posted on 02/11/2013 3:18:36 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: MeOnTheBeach

As a born & bred conservative Evangelical Protestant, trained in Evangelical colleges, I find your snide, arrogant anti-Catholic rant to be offensive and displaying an ignorance of both church history and the Catholic Church.


78 posted on 02/11/2013 4:08:07 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: MeOnTheBeach
I see no evidence for either of your statements to be true. I see just the opposite.

Based on the biblical "scholarship" evinced by your previous post, I'd question the value your inability to "see" evidence....

95 posted on 02/11/2013 8:37:36 PM PST by papertyger
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