Why Mormonism will Surrender to Homosexuality

Renew America ^ | Feb. 13, 2013 | Linda Kimball

[Elsie]

Somewhere, there are 37 angels trying to crowd their way onto an already over-filled pinhead...

[Elsie]

Every organized religion on planet earth will do and say whatever is necessary to enhance its money, power, and prestige.

Even YOURS?

[Elsie]

Stop reading somebody else’s word and look to God's Word.

John 1 (niv)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

[Elsie]

I don’t like the religion of Mormonism, but I live the homosexual “religion” even less, so Mormonism succumbing to the gay mafia is not good in my book

It's my prayer that you'll STOP altogether.

(I know; but the Devil made me do it! ;^)

[Elsie]

I simply used our common belief in the Bible to discuss your misconception about the creation story.

Nothing wrong with this; but you DO realize that GOD has a LOT more to say about things; right??

--MormonDude(May I call you my friend?)

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[Elsie]

Drat!!!

I mask for a calculator and these bozos give me a CRACKER! again...

[ejonesie22]

Like I said, interesting...

A self-proclaimed polymath who cannot answer a simple question....

Nothing of the Bible bothers me, indeed its clarity goes back to the original argument. God created the heavens and the Earth, very clear...

[Elsie]

Avoidance can be an effective defense mechanism, yet aren’t Gen. 1:1-3 as presented to you not a part of the Holy Bible?

Just as much as...

Genesis 3:1

Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ...

[ejonesie22]

Well I’m no polymath...

[Elsie]

A self-proclaimed polymath who cannot answer a simple question....

"We are smart...

[spirited irish]

To all who know that God transcends His creation, is all-powerful, and neither co-equal with or limited by matter, Gen. ex nihilo is abundantly clear. But for all who worship matter it is apriori not clear.

You have made it very clear that you worship matter and a limited god-man who supposedly emerged out of matter over time much like the Egyptian Sun-God Ra. The god you call holy, and who perhaps you hope to become like, is merely an idol you speak for, so of course your idol speaks against creation ex nihlo but wholeheartedly approves of pre-existent matter.

[1010RD]

Gen 1:2 is reasonably read as matter pre-Genesis. God acts upon it and then the creation begins. You can accept your reading, but what I’ve done is critical and powerful.

I’ve proven that ex nihilo is simply an interpretation, not the only conclusion. It is possible that matter existed pre-Genesis and in my opinion probable.

That matter existed prior to the narrative in Genesis does nothing to reduce the power, authority or majesty of God. I would also postulate that you know as much about God, creation and His purposes as an ant does about a wristwatch.

Recognize that throughout this discussion you’ve not referenced the Bible to support your view. You’ve not refuted any of my arguments. That’s because you cannot. You can only express an opinoin that is based on the opinions of other men, not the Bible’s own text.

From now on you cannot arbitrarily spout a lie that it is impossible that matter existed pre-Genesis. That’s what really matters. Can you learn?

[1010RD]

To all who know that God transcends His creation, is all-powerful, and neither co-equal with or limited by matter, Gen. ex nihilo is abundantly clear. But for all who worship matter it is apriori not clear.

We agree that God transcends His creation, is all-powerful and is not co-equal to or limited by matter. Ex nihilo is not abundantly clear. In fact, I've proved that it is not even a reasonable reading of Genesis 1:1-3.

Are you familiar with the meaning of the word abunantly? If you can prove your case with abundant evidence then do so. Otherwise, admit you're wrong and go on to learn and grow.

You have made it very clear that you worship matter and a limited god-man who supposedly emerged out of matter over time much like the Egyptian Sun-God Ra.

That is a lie and anyone reading this thread will see that. I am not a idolator and do not worship matter. If you persist then you mark yourself as a liar.

The important thing is that using God's Holy Bible I've proved that pre-Genesis matter is a reasonable and the probable reading of Genesis 1:1-3. Note that you've never referenced any part of the Bible. You made mention of the "Church Fathers", but a reading of the quote you provided in support of your case proves nothing about ex nihilo creation, no support at all.

Fundamentally, you will never again be able to state that pre-Genesis matter is a heresy as it is now proved to you to be the proper reading of Genesis 1:1-3. You can continue on in your opinion, but it is only an opinion and an inaccurate one.

[ejonesie22]

Like I said...

[ejonesie22]

I think I see the problem we have here.

You state:
“Recognize that throughout this discussion you’ve not referenced the Bible to support your view. You’ve not refuted any of my argumenealkts.”

Yet I have stated Genesis including giving a post of various translations of 1:1 from one of your own postings.

Reality is an issue for you. Not uncommon I have seen it with more than a few Mormons on these threads. I often wonder if it is a real phenomena or just a game of acting like something is said and/or not said that in reality was or not. Same vein as playing games answering questions about Church affiliation, or claiming the Bible as a sole resource after speaking of Eastern Philosophies that “support” ones position or telling a poster their interpretation of the Early Fathers is wrong and then abandoning them as a reference point.

Look when one spends years knowing 2+2=4, being taught it, seeing it proven again and again and seeing that the vast majority of legitimate scholarship mathematically proves it as well, the guys coming along and saying 2+2=5 really are entertaining, especially when they are claiming ignorance on the part of those who know the answer is 4, and scream those folks are obviously incapable of learning and lying when they say 2+2=4.

I am sorry but I am too smart to learn something as fact that isn't no matter how many times my self appointed "teacher" screams I am ignorant and incabpapbe of learning.

That is one main reason I am not LDS. I tend to reality and real fact...

[1010RD]

Do you really think this thread is about you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6UAYGxiRwU

[ejonesie22]

Like I said, issue with reality.

Have you seen your posts....

[Hoodat]

Everything you want to know about Genesis 1:1 begins here:

Matthew 6:33

[ejonesie22]

Exactly...

[restornu]

What amazes me 1010 is that I observe the same MO that Obama & Co uses on trying to undermined and destroy the Republican party comes very natural to some.

I am really proud of the good Americans who choose not to stoop to conquer not use any kind of behavior that detracts from who they are children of the Lord.

A good example the the Sequester which the Low Information Voters are clueless and because what ever Obama says makes it so yet it was Obama’s strawman and he been able to play that game over and over.

We Americans are being malign endlessly yet it is impossible to correct the distortions and character assassination of this nation for now, but the truth will in the Lord time be made known.