I posted this picture a few months ago on FR!
I am There There!
Posted on 03/06/2013 6:54:19 AM PST by NYer
The Vatican has always been a hotbed of politics, and secret deals..."inside Godball" if you will, I suspect that Benedict has a good idea who he wants to succeed him, and has done as much as possible to make sure that happens...
You are correct that the problem is worldwide, but if it can be broken in America the worst will be over.
Way off base. Ain’t happening!
“Burke called the US Democratic party “the party of death” and accused Barack Obama of being “anti-life and anti-family.””
Sounds like when John Paul called out the Soviet Union.
To this outsider, Burke sounds like he would be a superb choice. But at that point, it’s open warfare within the Catholic Church.
Got a link?
Go to Latin Mass, you will find what you seek.
Does it matter more what the man does, or what the man looks like while doing it?
An American for Pope?
Raymond Leo Burke (born June 30, 1948) is an American Cardinal[1] of the Roman Catholic Church.[2] He is the current Cardinal Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura, having previously served as Archbishop of St. Louis (2003–2008) and Bishop of La Crosse (1994–2003).
bio at wikipedia — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Leo_Burke
Burke is who I'd like to see them select but I thought everyone had ruled him out right away.
We cannot know what the Holy Spirit wants, just pray. Burke is my choice too.
Go to Latin Mass, you will find what you seek.
I grew up hearing the latin mass and I got nothing out of it, but boredom. If people would have understood what God was telling them, they would have been better people. Why would not hearing and understanding God word be better?
....But you never know, this upcoming conclave could very well produce a “surprise” Pope.
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The Holy Spirit has been known to do that. I really like Cardinal Burke, but we might ALL be surprised at the outcome of this conclave.
;-)
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Father, send down your Spirit over the conclave. Let the Holy Spirit inspire the hearts of the cardinals, that they may choose the man most pleasing to You, as Successor of Peter and Your Vicar on Earth. May Mary, Your Mother and Mother of the Church, be our Advocate. Amen.
Those who look to the Church for entertainment and to alleviate boredom won’t agree.
“Burke called the US Democratic party ‘the party of death” and accused Barack Obama of being “anti-life and anti-family.’”
Sounds good to me!
Then he says, "But I don't win all that many bets except on Baseball".
You're not the only one thinking along those lines.
I am sorry that you were bored at Latin Mass. No saint has ever found it to be so. Please try it again, read and pray the beautiful and ancient prayers by which we worship God. Nothing is required of you but to pray, to worship and listen to God. In a missal the Latin is on one side and the English on the other, it makes everything easy.
"When I am an old woman I shall wear purple red
"With a red hat which doesn't go, and doesn't suit me.
"And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves
"And satin sandals, and say we've no money for butter...."
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exactly.
A lot of people say that. Fr. Groeschel said that the mumbling way priests said Mass back in the day was not very great. He wasn’t against it, but...
On the other hand, latin is the language of the Church. It is an otherwise unused language, so no one can move in and corrupt the meaning of the Mass and no national favoritism can be shown.
A priest, I think also Fr. Groeschel, said, a few years ago, the enemy hates Latin. It’s nice then to play the Mass or Gregorian chant in the house.
EWTN just showed the cardinals praying the rosary in latin at vespers in prep for the conclave. No no one nation would be favored, among other things. My missal has the Lord’s Prayer and the Hail Mary in latin so I am able to follow along.
The priest is very reverent and clear. They process and close off the altar. The priest faces in the same direction as the congregation. So there’s never an expectation and inevitable disappointment of being entertained. THat’s what lunch hour is for.
I always want people to see at our school, the kids file into the sanctuary on fridays for the Mass in Latin. They pray along, learning the language, realizing they are praying the same prayers that they do in english on sundays.
When the boys chant in four part harmony during communion, when they would rather be pushing each other around or causing trouble for some teacher, it makes you cry, really.
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