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To: baa39; LovedSinner
These people have stayed true to the Church their whole lives thru constant turmoil and outright contradictions from their priests and bishops.

That is true for me and many others, as well. The difference, however, is that we accepted the liturgical changes, adapted as best as possible, and rose up to challenge those priests and bishops who attempted to introduce novelty. Moreover, we supported those who preferred the traditional form of the liturgy and joined them in celebrating its restoration. We remained faithful to the Vicar of Christ, through this trial and continue to pray for all priests and bishops.

These are often the people living most faithfully according to Church teaching, are active in pro-life, and are rearing several children (often on one salary) that are the only hope for the Church’s future.

Wow! What an arrogant and judgmental statement. Perhaps it has been a while since you have read Luke 15.

Yet they are often treated like freaks and weirdos, including by priests, even for something as simple as showing up at a Novos Ordo wearing a simple veil. I can see why after Benedict they are a bit wary of a Pope who won’t wear the red shoes!

Blessed John Paul II doffed the red shoes. The red color is symbolic. Saints Peter, Paul and Francis wore sandals. Jesus wore simple sandals. Would it offend you if Pope Francis decided to wear sandals? Your comments reflect a desire to see the pope dressed in the "trappings" of office that evolved over the centuries. If the pope does not show up in brocade vestments on Tuesday, will traditionalists be upset?

Consider that when St. Francis wanted approval for his brotherhood, he went straight to Rome to see Pope Innocent III. You can imagine what the pope thought when this beggar approached him! As a matter of fact he threw Francis out. But when he had a dream that this tiny man in rags held up the tilting Lateran basilica, he quickly called Francis back and gave him permission to preach. "Preach the Gospel; if necessary use words!" (no mention of elaborate vestments)

When Brogoglio rides the bus, does he notice the trads are still relegated to the back seat? If he sincerely cares about the “poor and marginalized” consider the spiritual poverty of those deprived of the Mass they love and wish to share with their children.

No pope will step into office, wave his hand and declare that the Novus Ordo liturgy is abolished. As Catholics we are very blessed to have 22 churches in which to celebrate our faith. A Roman rite Catholic may attend any Eastern Catholic Liturgy and fulfill his or her obligations at any Eastern Catholic Parish. A Roman rite Catholic may join any Eastern Catholic Parish and receive any sacrament from an Eastern Catholic priest, since all belong to the Catholic Church as a whole. I am a Roman Catholic practicing my faith at a Maronite Catholic Church. To learn more about the "two lungs" of the Catholic Church, visit this link:


48 posted on 03/17/2013 5:43:14 AM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

WHAT?!? You are reading things into my words.

I don’t know where you got the idea I was advocating abolishing the Novus Ordo! Seems to me you are being just as judgmental as you accuse me of being.

You are fortunate to be able to “receive any sacrament” from a variety of Catholic Churches. You are wrong that any Catholic has that option.

I live in a Rural area. There is ONE parish within 50 miles of my home, with about 150 members, most over 75. Due to it being a small parish, the bishop has dumped on us an incompetent and abusive priest that his previous parish demanded the bishop remove.

These poor little old devout ladies here are traumatized by the vicious treatment from our priest. Yet get no response to their please to the diocese.

Try putting yourself in my shoes instead of criticizing me. I doubt you can imagine the suffering here, if you’re really a “NYer” - because you live in the center of the world with 100’s of options, and I am at the remote, deserted ends of the earth.

50 posted on 03/19/2013 3:24:59 AM PDT by baa39 (amdg)
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