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Christian Pastor/Author Rob Bell Supports Gay Marriage
woodtv.com ^ | 3/18/13

Posted on 03/19/2013 4:20:22 AM PDT by rintense

ay, 19 Mar 2013, 1:18 AM EDT

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) - Controversial author and former pastor of Mars Hill Bible Church in Grandville came out in support of marriage equality during a forum March 17 in San Francisco.

During the forum at Grace Cathedral, an Episcopal church, Bell was asked about his position on gay marriage, and responded by saying, "I am for marriage. I am for fidelity. I am for love, whether it's a man and woman, a woman and a woman, a man and a man. I think the ship has sailed and I think the church needs -- I think this is the world we are living in and we need to affirm people wherever they are."

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TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; religiousleft; sin

1 posted on 03/19/2013 4:20:22 AM PDT by rintense
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To: rintense

Surprise, surprise; heretic Rob Bell supporting homosexual “marriage”


2 posted on 03/19/2013 4:24:13 AM PDT by Free and Armed
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To: rintense

“I am for love, whether it’s a man and woman, a woman and a woman, a man and a man.....a man and five women, a man and a sheep, and man and a pickup truck......”


3 posted on 03/19/2013 4:26:22 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: rintense

He just lost the name “CHRISTIAN”!! What a FREAK SHOW our country has become...>FREAKS!


4 posted on 03/19/2013 4:27:07 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: rintense

So, a “pastor” is saying we need to affirm people in their sin.

There’s a special judgement awaiting those who lead the sheep to their deaths.


5 posted on 03/19/2013 4:28:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rintense

what an absolute shame - his early stuff was promising - but this last book pooped the mattress


6 posted on 03/19/2013 4:29:04 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: MrB

I would bet anything he comes out of the closet.

He has a cult like following in West
Michigan that’s pretty scary.


7 posted on 03/19/2013 4:31:19 AM PDT by rintense
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To: rintense

“I think this is the world we are living in and we need to affirm people wherever they are.””.................

So, he is a “Christian pastor” and he wants to affirm people in their sinfulness???? He is very very confused.


8 posted on 03/19/2013 4:32:29 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: rintense
In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes.

Judges 17:6

9 posted on 03/19/2013 4:41:36 AM PDT by Hoodat (I stand with Rand.)
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To: Gumdrop
So, he is a “Christian pastor” and he wants to affirm people in their sinfulness???? He is very very confused.

I struggle with sin every day...The last thing I need is a pastor telling me my sin is ok...

It's not a matter of not understanding the scriptures...It's a matter of just not believing...

10 posted on 03/19/2013 4:44:08 AM PDT by Iscool (uee)
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To: rintense

It’s quite lovely for our politically correct times that he is for “marriage equality”, but his personal view is totally irrelevant to the Bible or to what Christians should do, support, or believe. Pretending that gay “marriage” is real marriage will not change reality, nor will it change God’s word. I am surprised that someone claiming to be a pastor would openly advocate that Christians ignore scripture.


11 posted on 03/19/2013 4:46:12 AM PDT by Pollster1
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To: rintense

It really is too bad that Bell wasn’t around at the time of Jesus so he could have put Him straight before His new religion took hold.


12 posted on 03/19/2013 4:46:29 AM PDT by rochester
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To: rintense

Then, Bell can NOT lay claim to being “Christian.” These passages make the issue rather clear:

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
1 Timothy 1:8-10
Romans 1:18-32


13 posted on 03/19/2013 4:48:32 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Iscool
"It's not a matter of not understanding the scriptures...It's a matter of just not believing..."

Amen brother you are so right!

14 posted on 03/19/2013 5:01:50 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: rintense

I am not a Christian but I’m starting to lean that way.

The Bible has been around for a long, long time and it has obviously helped many people. Who am I to say it’s wrong? One thing I do understand is this - The Bible doesn’t care what’s popular and what isn’t. If something is wrong today it will still be wrong tomorrow. It doesn’t matter how anyone feels about it. To wake up one day and decide that on a particular issue we should discount everything that’s been taught is to call into question the entire teaching.

Seems he stopped himself before finishing his sentence. “I think the ship has sailed and I think the church needs — “ Sounds to me as if he was about to say the magic words of all progressives - “to get with the times.” So his Bible is written on an Etch-a-Sketch?


15 posted on 03/19/2013 5:16:21 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: rintense

” I think the ship has sailed and I think the church needs”

Only a idiot says something like that. The only ship that has sailed is the one that God put in the water at the beginning of time.
Anything else is folly and foolishness.


16 posted on 03/19/2013 5:24:31 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (ok)
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To: servo1969

I have prayed for you this morning that you will accept Jesus as your personal Saviour.


17 posted on 03/19/2013 5:26:05 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: rintense

Controversial author and former pastor of Mars Hill Bible Church in Grandville came out in support of marriage equality

No accuracy in reporting anymore!
I doubt seriously he came out for marriage equality. He can out for homosexuals to marry. Not for 2 men and one women or 3 women and one man or brothers and sisters or fathers and daughters and on and on. Be accurate. Speak honestly!


18 posted on 03/19/2013 5:49:33 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: servo1969

Oooooooooow!
Etch-a-Sketch.....I like that!!!
May I use that sometime in the future?
It’ll be in conjunction with another fave of mine..”cafeteria Catholic”.


19 posted on 03/19/2013 5:50:04 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: rintense

who??


20 posted on 03/19/2013 5:52:26 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: rintense
"I am for marriage. I am for fidelity. I am for love,"

And the highest, most primary love is the love of God, who said "If you love me you will keep my commandments." Thus, there can be no love apart from righteousness, justice and holiness. Rob Bell has no idea what biblical, agape love is and I pray the Lord see fit to regenerate him, fill him with the Holy Spirit and bring him to a true, saving faith in Jesus Christ.

21 posted on 03/19/2013 5:53:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: rintense

The church needs to what? ignore parts of God’s word and join in loving the sin?

idiot


22 posted on 03/19/2013 5:54:20 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: rintense

There are wolves among the sheep. Not just in “liberal” denominations and parishes, either. A Southern Baptist pastor that I know quietly campaigns for gay rights and a boatload of other liberal social causes. His reasons? “The church has to stay relevant to survive” and “love, sweet love, etc. ad nauseum.” (More likely it is because his son is a flaming homo, but he has yet to admit that publically.) Even many who are now running true will be sorely tempted to kiss the pink ring in the near future when their 501.3(C) status becomes conditional upon their stance on this issue.


23 posted on 03/19/2013 5:54:26 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA; rintense
"Marriage Equality" is what the left is calling for these days. You would do well to take them at their word and be sure that they mean it in the most general and permissable way possible.

If a word can mean anything, it really means nothing. Likewise if marriage can be anything, it really is nothing. Which is the actual goal of the left. No marriages, no families, no religion.

24 posted on 03/19/2013 6:08:30 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: rintense

Are Robbie and Ted Haggard still an “item”.


25 posted on 03/19/2013 6:22:20 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: rintense

Hadn’t heard of him before. Based on Wiki, he sounds like someone who wants to tickle peoples’ ears rather than proclaim the truth about God.

“An electrifying, unconventional pastor whom Time magazine calls “a singular rock star in the church world,” Rob Bell is the most vibrant, central religious leader of the millennial generation.” - From an Amazon description of one of his books.

Guess it isn’t a surprise that he’d come out for homosexuality...


26 posted on 03/19/2013 6:25:47 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

#17

Thank you.


27 posted on 03/19/2013 6:27:34 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Prayers you’ll come to know God’s truth, servo...
In Christ alone,
JH


28 posted on 03/19/2013 6:39:57 AM PDT by love2cook
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To: Ann Archy
"He just lost the name “CHRISTIAN”!! What a FREAK SHOW our country has become...>FREAKS!"

Yes.....the more I see and hear lately, the harder it gets to wait for Jesus to come back.

Rob Bell lost the name Christian a while back, when he declared that hell doesn't exist....the idiot.

29 posted on 03/19/2013 7:28:26 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: rintense

As far as I am concerned, you don’t have to agree with same-sex marriage. If the rest of the nation does it, well, you can decide not to do it in your own church.


30 posted on 03/19/2013 7:56:23 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: servo1969

Praying for you today. Becoming a Christian was the best thing that ever happened to me. Christ completely and miraculously changed my life.

Romans 10:9 That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved.


31 posted on 03/19/2013 8:28:52 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: Morpheus2009

“If the rest of the nation does it, well, you can decide not to do it in your own church.”

That’s not the problem, there is no danger of ‘gay marriage’ being accepted in many faiths, in my opinion. And if some do accept it, they can’t punish any one else who doesn’t, like you say. The problem is if and when the state will punish those faiths that will never accept it. Considering 30 years ago ‘gay marriage’ wasn’t even an issue, I don’t think that is out of the realm of possibility.

Freegards


32 posted on 03/19/2013 8:40:05 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: servo1969

Many blessings Servo.

John 3:1-36

Matthew 7:7-8

Luke 15:6-10


33 posted on 03/19/2013 8:59:04 AM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: rintense

1 Timothy 4:1-2

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron...”
____________________________

Isaiah 5:20-21

“Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness;
Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,
And prudent in their own sight!”


34 posted on 03/19/2013 9:03:49 AM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

#31

I often wish I could. My main hang up is that I don’t really believe in Jesus and I don’t want to be a hypocrite. I don’t want to lie to myself and everyone else. If I did that, what would be the point? I want to believe but I don’t. The story of Jesus is powerful but it seems like an allegory to me. To be a Christian means by definition you must accept Jesus as your savior. You must believe. And so far I just can’t. I just can’t suspend my disbelief. I’m really not trying to offend anyone. I hate to use the term ‘fairy tale’ because that term is often used by people to mock Christians and anyone else who dares believe in G-d. But that’s the way it feels to me. I’m sorry that I don’t have other people’s ability to believe. I don’t know how.


35 posted on 03/19/2013 9:14:33 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: rintense

Another wolf in sheep’s clothing.


36 posted on 03/19/2013 9:15:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rintense
I am for love,

So if an adult man and a boy "love" each other, that makes it perfectly ok, eh, Rob?

37 posted on 03/19/2013 9:16:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: servo1969

I appreciate your honesty. You can’t make yourself believe no matter how much you may want it. I would recommend asking God to help your unbelief. Also, you may want to read Lee Strobel’s “The Case for Christ”. Again I will be praying for you.


38 posted on 03/19/2013 9:30:19 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: servo1969
Everyone struggles with the faith part occasionally. I would doubt that anyone has perfect faith 24/7. I'm a thinker. Many times I run every single possible conclusion through my mind when the obvious answer is right there in front of me.lol

Prayer is just simply talking to God. If you want, just pray and ask God to reveal Himself to you before you read the Bible. Tell Him you're struggling believing but you desire to and let Him work through that. You aren't the first person to struggle believing in your heart what you are wrestling with in your head. See what He does with it.:)

39 posted on 03/19/2013 10:04:39 AM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: Ransomed

Therein lies the inevitable problem for all of us, either we really believe in Jesus Christ, or simply God, or we don’t. Either we believe that our belief is the right belief, despite the fact that governments could fine us, jail us, and so on for belonging to what they term the wrong belief system. It has happened before, people of Christianity and Judaism have had to be willing to get jailed, pay religious taxes (fines) or even die as opposed to abandoning their religion. I never wanted to see the day where the kinds of awful trials of faith would be upon us, but as far as I am concerned, I very well may see it, plus see state governments do it, in fact, I think it’s likely that National Governments will start doing it all with at least making you pay your religious fines in a few years’ time.


40 posted on 03/19/2013 10:09:57 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: rintense

The MSM is working overtime to have anecdotes of previously unkonwn homosexuals supporting homsoexual marriage. I am just waiting for mccain and graham to come out of the closet.

This is all propaganda to fool the USSC justices into the “born that way myth”.

Any lawyer that argues mere religion will lose.


41 posted on 03/19/2013 10:15:05 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: scripter

of course he does... (ping)


42 posted on 03/19/2013 11:14:50 AM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: jboot

This is nothing more than the liberal infiltration of Christianity in order to turn it in favor of their doctrine.


43 posted on 03/19/2013 11:27:19 AM PDT by rintense
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To: rintense

Sure it is. And when they fail to turn all Christians to their error they will use the power of the State to pound us into submission. In a few short years tax exemptions will be withdrawn and civil rights lawsuits will fly. Brick-and-mortar churches with paid staff will become a thing of the past. To be sure there will be big, beautiful fake churches in every city, just as there are in the PRC. But the real Christians will be underground.


44 posted on 03/19/2013 12:04:14 PM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: rintense

No surprise. Maybe half a year ago, some Mormon dude was defending LDS teachings on hell by claiming that sophisticated Christian scholars agree with him. I asked him who he had in mind. “Rob Bell.” I LOLed.


45 posted on 03/19/2013 12:19:03 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: rintense

One thing you will not find anywhere in your Bible — the words “we must affirm people wherever they are”.

But it is so much easier to simply accept people no matter what they do, then to actually preach that there is right and wrong. That message leads to people despising you. And nobody wants to be despised.

I mean, that could lead to getting hung on a cross or something.


46 posted on 03/19/2013 8:48:52 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: servo1969
"I’m sorry that I don’t have other people’s ability to believe. I don’t know how."

FRiend you are by no means alone in that! Mark 9:24 "And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief."

Believing is not something that comes naturally to any of us,including christians.Not because it isn't true,not because God is hard to find but because the whole world and the god of this world is out to stifle any and everything pertaining to God and especially to His revealed word.In fact even our very own selves are at war with God out of a heart that we ourselves do not fully know.

Jesus Himself went so far as to say that believing was the "work of God".

"I often wish I could."

Please don't take this as flippant but....join the club!

47 posted on 03/19/2013 11:02:15 PM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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