Posted on 03/23/2013 4:13:46 PM PDT by marshmallow
A British judge upheld on Friday a decision to ban a Christian group from placing adverts on London buses that suggested people could be cured of homosexuality.
The group, Core Issues Trust, wanted to place adverts on the side of London's distinctive red double-decker buses that read: "Not gay! Ex-gay, post-gay and proud. Get over it!"
The proposed adverts were a response to a campaign by gay rights group Stonewall, which had run adverts on London buses that read: "Some people are gay. Get over it!"
In a 35-page ruling, High Court judge Beverley Lang dismissed Core Issues Trust's claim for a judicial review into the ban on the adverts imposed by Transport for London (TFL).
"(The advert) was not a contribution to a reasoned debate," she wrote, saying that the group's freedom of expression was counter-balanced by the risk of causing grave offence to gay people and increasing homophobic attacks.
Core Issues Trust said it would appeal, arguing the judgment was "likely to stifle open and free debate" about homosexuality and discriminate against "those who reject a 'gay' identity".
The group says it aims to help "people who voluntarily seek to change from a 'gay' lifestyle to a gender-affirming one".
Stonewall welcomed the judgment, saying the decision to ban what it described as "voodoo 'gay cure' adverts" was correct.
(Excerpt) Read more at charismanews.com ...
I'm trial-running my own response to that.
Same-sex behavior probably has always existed in every society. Agreed? And that raises the excellent question of why gay marriage has never existed in ANY society.
The reason is that there is nothing in a gay pairing which requires the socially and legally enforced "twosiness" which is a part of the central definition of marriage: "for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer, in sickness and in health, til death do us part."
Gay relationships are historically and inherently more fluid than the husband-wife dyad. As not-for-us marchers in Gay Paree put it recently: "We're gayer without marriage."
What is it about the specifically male-female pairing that makes it require the blessings (or, mind you, the burdens) of social, religious, and legal definition and enforcement? It's the fact that this is the only form of sexual union which can spontaneously result in procreation.
No strictly adult-adult relationship requires vows of fidelity except man-woman pair-bonding. This is because adults can negotiate the boundaries of their own relationships: by custom, by consent, or by contract.
Only man-woman couples need the structure of law--- not to bond them to each other, but to bond them to the children which may result from their sexual union. Marriage is the only institution we have which is intended to permanently link a man, a woman, and the children they beget and bear together from their union.
It exists to assert, not the adults' desires, but the children's rights: their right to the provision, care, and sustenance of their natural father and mother.
Why would people with an inherently more fluid gay relationship dynamic, actually require the limitations of a religiously-rooted, historically-fraught, heteronormative, gender-binary legal bond?
Believe me, you're gayer without it.
I agree, of course. Human beings are male/female, two sides of the same coin.
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We should seriously ask ourselves how did we get to a status quo where a tiny fraction of the population that choose to engage in disgusting, unhealthy, unnatural perverted sex run everything? Just pretend for a minute that you never heard of "gaydom" or "gayness" or "transgender" or "Heather has two mommies". You wake up and all of a sudden - here we are. How did we get that way? Because we didn't put a stop to it decades ago. Now what?
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oh I questioned alright and saw Hannity, Rush, elected officials and others who never spoke up, who knew this was coming but wanted to keep their jobs and play it safe
They are the cowards who are just as much as to blame
I saw plenty of "converts" to heterosexuality after art school.
Your elegantly reasoned response would make perfect sense to a sensible person. Unfortunately, we are dealing with the Father of Lies here. They don’t rally want marriage; they want:
• society’s stamp of approval for homosexual behaviors
• money benefits usually reserved for married couples
• the females want to have children without having to remain attractive to a man
• the males want to erode any barriers to living with children and having access to lots of children. If they have to pose as a nice married couple, what’s it to them? Most of the males, at least, do not intend to uphold any of the other norms, such as fidelity.
To figure out how we got here, we have to go back to the Communist goals for America in 1963. The 26th goal was to normalize homosexuality. It was never just a small group of perverts pushing homosexuality but the entire left-wing infrastructure in this nation.
And, why didn't conservatives put a stop to it? Because conservatism was infiltrated by libertarians that have no problem with the homosexual agenda.
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