[GGpaX4DumpedTea]

I gave you the dictionary definitions...and they go back several hundred years. The ‘veneration’ of Mary is not a new thing, and the definitions of old would apply to that.

[Rashputin]

Actually, that usage that wasn't even a part of English until after the KJV of the Bible was written.

In the US and in languages other than English, adoration didn't include "worship" as an acceptable usage until after 1900, and then only due to the fact the English had added at that usage about the time they wrote the KJV Bible. Even then, it appears as the third or forth acceptable usage.

Besides, what it means in English is meaningless since English wasn't even a written language when the doctrine was established. That's why when someone starts the garbage about what adoration means in English after sixteen hundred it's obvious they don't care one iota about the truth. All such folks care about is spreading their propaganda and lies so if the truth can't be twisted to fit into their agenda they're more than happy to tell any sort of lie they think they can get away with.

Anyone who thinks the Bible, which is composed of books written two thousand and more years ago in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, can be understood by relying on definitions altered to suit Englishmen who were beholden to a monarchy that first outlawed Christianity and confiscated Church property, then wrote a new translation of the Bible to suit their queer King, is someone who doesn't much care about Scripture to begin with. People who don't care what the Scripture means anyway only show up and blabber about what something in Church doctrine or Scripture means in hopes of spreading divisions among Christians.

It's a shame to see, but that sort of folks are under a strong delusion, the same delusion Scripture says leads to destruction. Such folks need to stop worshiping their own, "Most High and Holy Self" and following Eve rather than Jesus Christ. If they would surrender to Christ they'd begin to understand Scripture rather than trying to impose their own conceptions and misconceptions on Scripture.

[Mrs. Don-o]

But you are taking the dictionary definitions as if dictionaries were authoritative over ACTIONS. That is silly. It is like if a woman said, "Oh, that little kitten is so adorable" and you accused her of worshipping cats.

The meaningof ANY word varies according to action, usage, and intent. My home-schooled kids knew that by 3rd grade.

I cited typical examples of how the word "veneration" is commonly used. Now I will cite what the action of veneration does: it honors.

One cannot "inadvertently" (or even "surreptitiously") adore one's officers in the armed forces, for instance, when offering them the common signs of honor.

"Honor those to whom honor is due," says St. Paul.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I can see, though, that you are interested in dictionaries. So, if this does not seem too school-marmish on my part (though I come by it naturally: I'm a homeschooling mom) --- please use google to get me a definiton of three words:

• dulia
• hyperdulia
• latria

Thank you. Extra points for neatness.

:o)