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Spread of Catholic health care raises barriers to care choices {liberal whine}
Cross cut ^ | 11 April 2013 | Valerie Tarico

Posted on 04/11/2013 10:01:24 PM PDT by Cronos

Despite the 2008 Death With Dignity Act, Washington residents may be at a greater risk than ever of losing the ability to manage our own dying process or that of loved ones. Legal rights mean little when caretakers “always start CPR.”

They mean even less when caretakers believe they serve a higher authority.

Across the country, mergers between secular and Catholic facilities almost invariably result in the United Stafes Conference of Catholic Bishops’ directives being imposed on the whole system, though the change may be gradual. Once a patient enters their care, theology, rather than science, decides what range of services will be offered. Even secular providers treating secular patients are compelled to deny certain treatment options to pregnant or dying patients.

When it comes to the question of dying, the simple answer, and the one we received from our ancestors, is that a chance at life, no matter how degraded or brief, is always the better than the alternative. That is the default assumption of most administrators and care providers, and it is encoded in law and religion. Our personal preferences are like second page news.

..The bishops and many other believers think they know God’s will, and they are so confident that they are willing to impose their beliefs on the rest of us.

(Excerpt) Read more at crosscut.com ...


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She wants the right to euthanasia, and doesn't like it that the Catholic Church says it is wrong...
1 posted on 04/11/2013 10:01:24 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

“Dying process”?


2 posted on 04/11/2013 10:03:25 PM PDT by Tublecane
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I've worked in a Catholic hospital for over 30 yrs.....no one is denied care..

..no one is forced to accept care under reasonable circumstances...

eg: someone has hepatic encephalopathy and does not make sense...in that case everything would be done unless he/she had signed paperwork beforehand when he was in a clear state....

we always assume the patient wants everything done unless they say otherwise, or their POA says otherwise....

3 posted on 04/11/2013 10:11:50 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Cronos

Killing is not “healthcare”!

Either in the womb, on the delivery table, or at the among the elderly.


4 posted on 04/11/2013 10:12:24 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: Cronos

What a leftard. Lady, if you want to off yourself, feel free. The less people like you in the world, the safer the rest of us are. Perhaps she prefers the old Eskimo ritual of leaving Grandmom on an icefloe.


5 posted on 04/11/2013 10:14:27 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Cronos

Choose another hospital, @$$hole.


6 posted on 04/11/2013 10:23:23 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: Cronos

What do they think Obamacare is going to do?


7 posted on 04/11/2013 10:23:52 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Cronos

These idiots are apparently unaware that Catholic health insurance is also a choice. No one is forced into it.


8 posted on 04/11/2013 10:33:48 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Cronos

Don’t they have enough places willing to do their killing for them?

They claim to be all about “choice” but they want to force others to partake in their filthy activities.


9 posted on 04/11/2013 10:48:55 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: cherry

the only “care” that the left is interested in is slaughtering everyone in sight. That’s all they do and all they stand for.


10 posted on 04/11/2013 10:49:40 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Cronos

“Once a patient enters their care, theology, rather than science, decides what range of services will be offered.”

Oh, BULLSPIT! My father, rest his soul, was treated by a Catholic hospital when it was discovered he had cancer. Though he would eventually lose his battle, I can not say enough good things about the level of care he received and the professionalism of the staff.

Mz. Tarico can go take a flying leap into Puget Sound. And stay there.


11 posted on 04/11/2013 10:56:18 PM PDT by DemforBush (Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!)
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Here’s a snippet from her website:

“In her own effort to heal a world that is being fractured by cultural and religious zealots, Tarico wrote a second book, Trusting Doubt (former title, The Dark Side), about her personal encounter with religious fundamentalism and her spiritual journey in search of love and truth.”

Oh, goody. She’s going to save me from anyone who disagrees with her new found atheism.

What a pretentious prig.


12 posted on 04/11/2013 11:01:10 PM PDT by DemforBush (Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia!)
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To: Cronos

And so the media campaign to build support for nationalizing Catholic hospitals begins.


13 posted on 04/11/2013 11:34:37 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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..no one is forced to accept care under reasonable circumstances...

I worked for almost ten years in a "Catholic" hospital (officially, a non-profit run by a religious order). The differences:

1. No abortions, get one somewhere else. And no, you can't use one of our PCs to look one up online.

2. Advance directives are insisted upon, although they tended to get lazy and assume each patient was "DNR" unless otherwise specified. Even though it was in her AD as "one recess until health care advocate arrives for further decision". I spent ten minutes chewing out the unit supervisor in the name of my mom.

3."Withholding nutrition and hydration" does not constitute "heroic practices". Starvation and dehydration are not sound medical or ethical procedures. Nobody can order it, or follow that order, without losing their jobs, and the hospital appearing on the side of the patient if it goes to court.

The federal government is in favor of all three items, especially #3. It's so quiet and convenient, especially if there is no family dropping by to keep an eye on those things. Some ghouls, both doctors and nurses, try to get by with a lethal injection during the midnight shift, but that's still considered a criminal medical practice.

There are lots of other non-profits around, secular and religious, but once again, the Catholic Church is considered low-hanging fruit, because it's the biggest player in the non-profit hospital game. The turn of the Jewish hospitals, Shriners, etc. will be coming soon, but much more quietly once they put the Catholics out of business.

With the Supreme Court gutting the Fourth Amendment for the taxing convenience of government, I can see the feds declaring a "national healthcare crisis", and seizing all the Catholic hospitals. I see all the religious (usually top management and executives) out the door as fast as they can sweep their personal belongings into a box. 75% of the "grunts" won't return for their next shift. They all knew what working for a Catholic hospital meant when they signed on.

So how will the government instantly take over the care of hundreds of thousands of patients, health care centers, pharmacies, etc? I suspect there will be ad hoc "death squads" with cases of veterinary drugs for putting down animals. Then blame the Catholics anyway.

The statists figure every situation is always win-win-win for them. Kill a lot of birds with one injection.

14 posted on 04/12/2013 2:04:32 AM PDT by 300winmag (Whatever CAN go wrong has already happened. We just don't know about it yet.)
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To: Cronos

How dare those Catholic perform CPR on my aged parents! Clearly they told me they wanted to die

sarc

maybe Catholic medical care facilities should be only for Catholics

today’s MEdia propaganda piece story is that “Baby Boomers” are demanding the right to euthanasia and forging a brave new frontier

new obamacare: free abortion and free euthanasia, what better measure of a society


15 posted on 04/12/2013 4:23:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Rashputin

I know some of he Catholic hospitals will fight. Some won’t, but some will. And we have to be prepared to fight at their sides.


16 posted on 04/12/2013 5:20:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("He will come on that Day to judge the living and the dead, and the earth by fire.")
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