Posted on 04/18/2013 6:26:35 AM PDT by DouglasKC
The UCG is in the same bucket as the Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons -- religions that take some aspects of Christianity that they pick and choose, but they are not Christians.
Seriously....are we going to resort to 3rd grade insults here.... :-)
I don't need to listen to “the haters” to realize that you translate “many” as “almost all” as to who has been deceived by false prophets; or to realize that you think the vast majority of all Christians who have ever lived have been “counterfeit” - except for a very recent very small sect.
Must make you feel oh so special! Like the cancer patient who gets “the cure” down in Mexico that American medicine doesn't want you to know about!!!
They don’t shy away from it. It is a frequent topic. Among “Fire and Brimstone” preachers and “Holy Rollers” it is almost the exclusive topic.
I don’t need to listen to “the haters” to realize that you translate “many” as “almost all” as to who has been deceived by false prophets; or to realize that you think the vast majority of all Christians who have ever lived have been “counterfeit” - except for a very recent very small sect.
Must make you feel oh so special! Like the cancer patient who gets “the cure” down in Mexico that American medicine doesn’t want you to know about!!!
True, and Doug, in your United C of G (an organization that denies the Trinity by stating that the Holy Spirit is not God) does the following:once ensnared within Herbert Armstrong's "one true church," members were commanded to save more than a first tithe. There was a second and third tithe to be paid, plus seven holy day offerings a year, as well as numerous other "needs" such as a building fund and emergencies.
UCG members likewise are told it is biblical to pay headquarters a first tithe on their net income (along with offerings) for the "furtherance of the Work." To fail to do so is considered "stealing from God,"
A third tithe is paid every 3rd year out of seven, and while they will give a lengthy explanation about who is ineligible to pay this tithe, members are still "encouraged" to give a third tithe to the "Church's Assistance Fund." (Ministers claim they are part of the Levitical priesthood and do not have to pay 2nd or 3rd tithes.)
So, sorry, but casting stones....?
Oh...let me get this right. They can teach almost anything that goes against God, his commandments and scripture but as LONG as they have "We believe in the trinity" in their statement of belief you think they're NOT part of a false Christianity.
How far exactly could they go? Supporting abortion? Supporting adultery?
I'm amazed...
Some cannot accept that their church is into modernism — a heresy — can they?
Actually YOU are the one who said “blah blah blah.... :-)” when I posted excerpts of what your United C of G teaches....
Sorry, but tithing and selling are not the same thing my friend...
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Pope Pius X gave an address to new cardinals on this day in 1907, in which he condemned the heresy of Modernism. This heresy tries to change truths taught by the Church to fit the thinking of the day. |
So here’s a question to all:
When you go to a public event where they offer an opening prayer or when you are at someone’s home and they offer to bless the food, and at these occasions the folks offering the blessing or prayers are any of these faiths mentioned or others such as Mormons, Muslims, Hindu, etc., do you pray with them or do you say you own prayer?
LOL! No, I offer to say the prayer, make the Sign of the Cross, continue with a general prayer of thanks and end with the Catholic prayer before meals. LOL! It works!
Their loss if they don’t invite me back.
Silently giving my own prayer is the usual way I would handle this...
For a great example of this study why protestant churches switched from wine to grape juice in their "Lord's Supper" ceremonies...it was all about fitting in with the current social trends....
Well if you really didn't get it I was "blah blahing" (is that a word?) your accusations and characterizations of those beliefs...:-)
I won’t mention any of the names of these preachers. There are some on here who get very angry when you speak ill of their “earthly savior”.
Don’t flame me! I didn’t mention any names.
I won’t mention any of the names of these preachers. There are some on here who get very angry when you speak ill of their “earthly savior”.
Don’t flame me! I didn’t mention any names.
I do the same.
Episcopalians are deviant Christians, but their Trinitarian Chrisotology is as of now Christian.
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One doctrine does not a Christian make. Contriarily, lack of one doctrine does not necessicarilly Christian break.
The Lord tells us that by their works you shall know them. I try my hardest not to judge. But, Sometimes!
The Catholic Church for all its problems has an organization called Catholic Charities. This my friends is a group of good people who help poor people all over the world in need. This is what The Lord would have us do. This is what I find lacking in many churches. I have great respect for the new Pope, the leader of the Roman Catholic Church who has decided to live in a humble apartment instead of the lavish Papel apartments, more power to him.
Demonstrating for Queer marriage is not doing good works in my opinion and is not a “fruit” you would want to known by when you stand before The Lord.
There are many churches that have interesting doctrines, some of them captivating but more important to me is their fruits. Thre are many so-called Christian Churches that don’t have much in the way of fruits. Yes, they have a Sunday School where they teach the Gospel and teach people how to conduct themselves in the world, this is a good thing but it isn’t much. Some of them have beautiful structures and beautiful crosses in their church yards that can be be seen, some over a mile away. This is a good thing but in my opinion not the fruits The Lord was speaking of.
I’m not Catholic, so don’t think I’m promoting my church, but Catholic Charities is fruit. Mormons for their size help millions of people all over the world, you never hear about it but they do, its fruit. Another organization that is a church that you might not think of that has fruit especially for their size is The Salvation Army. They help a lot of people. They tell a lot of people about Jesus Christ but they feed and house them too. To me Christian Charity is fruit. It is what James was talking about when he said “show me your works and I’ll show you your faith”.
As far as Mr. Armstrong is concerned, a lot of what he says like a lot of churches is logical and is ok but some of it just isn’t at least to me. While his church would not be considered Christian because it does not hold the traditional view of The Trinity that view did not not become the law of the church until 325AD. Until that time Mr. Armstrongs views would have been ok, if not for Constantine perhaps they still would be.
Anyway, my feeling from what I read in the New Testament is that God has rules, we should learn those rules. God help you if you teach false rules but if you learn false rules and you love The Lord and your fellow man and you show that love by your fruits The Lord will know you when you stand before His father accused of the sins of life that you are surely guilty of and He will come to your rescue.
My friend and co-worker, John Lomperis, wrote a series of articles about it, which you can read here: https://www.theird.org/why-was-the-2012-general-conference-so-unproductive-and-dysfunctional--
(Many other issues were also torpedoed - but that's another discussion.)
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