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To: FatherofFive
Completely clueless

Completly (sic) following Scripture

I'd have to have a little more context before making a judgment. Is he saying you cannot have Christ without being a part of the Church (the worldwide body of believers, saved by grace through faith, irrespective of denominational association); or you cannot have Christ without being a part of the Roman Catholic church?

If the first, I whole-heartedly agree: once you belong to Christ you are a part of the Church, the Bride of Christ. You are part of the Church by virtue of your relationship with Christ, and cannot have Christ living in your heart without being a part of the Church.

If the second, then I agree that the Pope is very far off base. I hope this is not the case, because I think the Catholic Church needs a leader who is more knowledgeable of the Bible than that statement would indicate.

34 posted on 04/23/2013 2:05:12 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative
I'd have to have a little more context before making a judgment.

Thank you for your comments. We are here to discover the Truth.

Here is more context. I would ask you to look at the “Church” in the context of the clear words of Scripture:

“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 6:18

Here Christ says he has established a Church and his Church will not be destroyed.

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Here the Church is established as the pillar and foundation of truth. There cannot be multiple ‘Truths’ so there cannot be multiple Churches.

The Church of the apostles was definitely one: "There is one body and one spirit," Paul wrote, "just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of us all" (Eph. 4:4-5). Paul linked this primitive unity to the Church's common Eucharistic bread: "Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of one bread" (1 Cor. 10:17). Jesus had promised at the outset that "there would be one flock, one shepherd" (John 10:16).

Scripture cleary points to ONE Church.

And so sorry you had to move to CA from TX!

48 posted on 04/23/2013 2:24:32 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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