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To: catbertz

Perhaps then the problem is that the boys feel there is no role for them.

Are we encouraging the boys to step forward when we say, eh? who cares? Girls are just as good if not better.


32 posted on 04/29/2013 11:19:16 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

First, I missed who was saying “girls are just as good, if not better”. Did you think I said that?

Second, the specific causes responsible for boys not getting involved is complicated to be sure. I expect that multiple reasons are at play. If the Pope chooses to ban girls, then so be it, but I doubt the presence of girls is scaring away the boys.

I coach a co-ed Catholic baseball team, and none of the teams in our co-ed league seem to have any trouble filling the roster with boys willing to play alongside girls.


33 posted on 04/30/2013 12:12:42 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: JCBreckenridge

The Catholic Church is being subverted by Marxist ideology-—the “Social” Justice crew-—they injected women into traditional male roles——inside the Church-—to emasculate the traditionally very masculine Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church is about doing Battle-—the Battle for Souls against Satan. They need males for this role.

Masculine traits like that in St. Paul-—are necessary for survival of the Church—if you feminize boys-—blur male/female roles (women in combat/firefighters, altar girls, etc)-—boys learn to NOT put women on a pedestal and be the “protector”-—the “Fighter” willing to sacrifice for family which is needed for survival of cultures and maturity in males.

Truth (which the Catholic Church is always supposed to be for) states that there is a different role for males and females (biology proves it, too). Marxists want to erase the differences and confuse the children so anything becomes “right”——the Catholic Church is infiltrated.

Blurring the roles of males and females ruins Catholic Theology, which refers to the “Bride” of Christ, God the Father, etc. It makes it hard for children to understand the underlying meaning of Catholic Theology.

Men are not “growing up” (no decent role models and healthy male bonding (like in Boy Scouts and as altar boys) ... it is intentional...the Leftist plan to collapse Western Civilization and they need to destroy Christianity to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei0TcEgHK4Y


34 posted on 04/30/2013 12:24:23 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: JCBreckenridge
But there is a role for them!

From the General Instruction of the Roman Missal only duties of acolytes are mentioned. No duties of altar servers is given! (Just in case people were thinking I am nuts in only talking about boys!)

You can also see how these definitions prepare a young man for thinking about entering the priesthood.

C. The Duties of the Acolyte

187. The duties that the acolyte may carry out are of various kinds and several may coincide. Hence, it is desirable that these duties be suitably distributed among several acolytes. If, however, only one acolyte is present, he should perform the more important duties while the rest are to be distributed among several ministers.

The Introductory Rites

188. In the procession to the altar, the acolyte may carry the cross, walking between two ministers with lighted candles. Upon reaching the altar, the acolyte places the cross upright near the altar so that it may serve as the altar cross; otherwise, he puts it in a worthy place. Then he takes his place in the sanctuary.

189. Through the entire celebration, the acolyte is to approach the priest or the deacon, whenever necessary, in order to present the book to them and to assist them in any other way required. Thus it is appropriate, insofar as possible, that the acolyte occupy a place from which he can conveniently carry out his ministry either at the chair or at the altar.

The Liturgy of the Eucharist

190. If no deacon is present, after the Prayer of the Faithful is concluded and while the priest remains at the chair, the acolyte places the corporal, the purificator, the chalice, the pall, and the Missal on the altar. Then, if necessary, the acolyte assists the priest in receiving the gifts of the people and, if appropriate, brings the bread and wine to the altar and hands them to the priest. If incense is used, the acolyte presents the thurible to the priest and assists him while he incenses the gifts, the cross, and the altar. Then the acolyte incenses the priest and the people.

191. A duly instituted acolyte, as an extraordinary minister, may, if necessary, assist the priest in giving Communion to the people.[100] If Communion is given under both kinds, when no deacon is present, the acolyte administers the chalice to the communicants or holds the chalice if Communion is given by intinction.

192. Likewise, when the distribution of Communion is completed, a duly instituted acolyte helps the priest or deacon to purify and arrange the sacred vessels. When no deacon is present, a duly instituted acolyte carries the sacred vessels to the credence table and there purifies, wipes, and arranges them in the usual way.

193. After the celebration of Mass, the acolyte and other ministers return in procession to the sacristy, together with the deacon and the priest in the same way and order in which they entered.


64 posted on 04/30/2013 8:07:36 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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