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Why Pope Francis Doesn't Give (Distribute) Communion
Chiesa ^ | May 9, 2013 | Sandro Magister

Posted on 05/09/2013 5:06:34 AM PDT by NYer

Because, he says, unrepentant public sinners could slip in among the faithful, and he does not want to back up their hypocrisy. The case of Catholic politicians who support abortion.



ROME, May 9, 2013 – There is one particular in the Masses celebrated by Pope Francis that raises questions that have so far gone unanswered.

At the moment of communion, pope Jorge Mario Bergoglio does not administer it himself, but allows others to give the consecrated host to the faithful. He sits down and waits for the distribution of the sacrament to be completed.

The exceptions are very few. At solemn Masses the pope, before sitting down, gives communion to those assisting him at the altar. And at the Mass last Holy Thursday, at the juvenile detention facility of Casal del Marmo, he wanted to give communion himself to the young detainees who approached to receive it.

Bergoglio has given no explicit explanation of this behavior since becoming pope.

But there is one page in a book he published in 2010 that allows one to infer the motives at the origin of this practice.

The book is a collection of conversations with the rabbi of Buenos Aires, Abraham Skorka.

At the end of the chapter dedicated prayer, the then-archbishop Bergoglio says:

"David had been an adulterer and had ordered a murder, and nonetheless we venerate him as a saint because he had the courage to say: 'I have sinned.' He humbled himself before God. One can commit enormous mistakes, but one can also acknowledge them, change one's life and make reparation for what one has done. It is true that among parishioners there are persons who have killed not only intellectually or physically but indirectly, with improper management of capital, paying unjust wages. There are members of charitable organizations who do not pay their employees what they deserve, or make them work off the books. [. . .] With some of them we know their whole résumé, we know that they pass themselves off as Catholics but practice indecent behaviors of which they do not repent. For this reason, on some occasions I do not give communion, I stay back and let the assistants do it, because I do not want these persons to approach me for a photo. One may also deny communion to a known sinner who has not repented, but it is very difficult to prove these things. Receiving communion means receiving the body of the Lord, with the awareness of forming a community. But if a man, rather than uniting the people of God, has devastated the lives of many persons, he cannot receive communion, it would be a total contradiction. Such cases of spiritual hypocrisy present themselves in many who take refuge in the Church and do not live according to the justice that God preaches. And they do not demonstrate repentance. This is what we commonly call leading a double life.”

As can be noted, Bergoglio explained in 2010 his abstaining from giving communion personally with a very practical reason: "I do not want these persons to approach me for a photo."

As an experienced pastor and a good Jesuit, he knew that among those who receive communion there could be unrepentant public sinners who nonetheless professed themselves to be Catholics. He knew that at that point it would be difficult to deny them the sacrament. And he knew the public effects that that communion could have, if received from the hands of the archbishop of the Argentine capital.

One could infer that Bergoglio may sense the same danger as pope, indeed even more so. And for this reason he would be adopting the same prudential conduct: “I do not give communion, I stay back and let the assistants do it.”

The public sins that Bergoglio gave as examples in his conversation with the rabbi are the oppression of the poor and the withholding of just wages from the worker. Two sins traditionally listed among the four that “cry out to heaven for vengeance.”

But the reasoning is the same that in recent years has been applied by other bishops to another sin: public support for pro-abortion laws on the part of politicians who profess themselves to be Catholic.

This latter controversy has had its epicenter in the United States.

In 2004, then-cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, prefect of the congregation for the doctrine of the faith, sent to the episcopal conference of the United States a note with the “general principles” on the question.

The episcopal conference decided to “apply” on a case-by-case basis the principles recalled by Ratzinger, leaving it up to the "individual bishops to make prudent pastoral judgments in [their] own circumstance.”

From Rome, Cardinal Ratzinger accepted this solution and called it “in harmony” with the general principles of his note.

In reality, the bishops of the United States are not unanimous. Some of them, including among the conservatives, like cardinals Francis George and Patrick O'Malley, are reluctant to “make the Eucharist a political battleground.” Others are more intransigent. When the Catholic Joe Biden was chosen as vice-presidential running mate by Barack Obama, the archbishop of Denver at the time, Charles J. Chaput, now in Philadelphia, said that Biden's support for the so-called “right” to abortion was a grave public fault and “I presume that his integrity will lead him to refrain from presenting himself for communion."

The fact remains that last March 19, at the Mass for the inauguration of the pontificate of Francis, vice-president Biden and the leader of the House Democrats, Nancy Pelosi, she too a pro-abortion Catholic, were part of the official delegation of the United States.

And both received communion. But not from the hands of pope Bergoglio, who was seated behind the altar.

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The book:

Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Abraham Skorka, "On Heaven and Earth", Random House, New York, 2013.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Worship
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; communion; eucharist; francis; mass; pope; vatican
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The controversy in the United States over whether or not to give communion to pro-abortion Catholic politicians, with the complete text of the 2004 note from Ratzinger:

> Obama's Pick for Vice President Is Catholic. But the Bishops Deny Him Communion (27.8.2008)

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English translation by Matthew Sherry, Ballwin, Missouri, U.S.A.

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The latest three articles from www.chiesa:

7.5.2013
> Vatican Diary / "The Holy Father told me…"
On the future of the IOR and on the reform of the curia, Francis is calling prelates and cardinals back to silence. He will be the one to decide the how and the when. The pope's rebukes made public through an interview with the substitute secretary of state

3.5.2013
> Shanghai, a Strong and Hard-pressed Diocese
A state funeral for the bishop Jin Luxian, and house arrest for his successor, Ma Daqin. The former honored by the regime, the latter accused of rebellion against his country. When it comes to China, what will the new pope do?

29.4.2013
> The Spell of Pope Francis
His popularity is to a large extent due to the artfulness with which he speaks. Everything is forgiven him, even when he says things that if said by others would be hammered with criticism. But the first protests are beginning to appear

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For more news and commentary, see the blog that Sandro Magister maintains, available only in Italian:

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1 posted on 05/09/2013 5:06:34 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 05/09/2013 5:06:55 AM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

unrepentant public sinners could slip in among the faithful
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He means like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi when they received Communion in Rome.

Both bragged on it too.

Imagine if the Pope had given it to them.

Smart man.


3 posted on 05/09/2013 5:15:13 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: NYer

well done Pope Francis..


4 posted on 05/09/2013 5:17:35 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: NYer
One could infer

If the Pope would excommunicate Nancy Pelosi, you woundn't need to infer anything.

5 posted on 05/09/2013 5:30:05 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Cronos
both received communion. But not from the hands of pope Bergoglio, who was seated behind the altar.

If His Holiness does not wish to give abortionists communion he could instruct the ministers of the Holy Communion not to.

6 posted on 05/09/2013 5:31:15 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
Amen! Its kinda like being an accessory to a crime? You didnt push a button on a guy, but you drove the car.
7 posted on 05/09/2013 5:52:53 AM PDT by TheGunny
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Dear annalex,

I agree. This is too cute by half.

In the cases of biden and pelosi especially, it's not like we're dealing with obscure figures, or folks who try to hide their crimes against God and humanity. We're talking about two of the most powerful politicians in the most powerful nation on earth, who trumpet their support for on-going premeditated, mass, serial murder of innocent children.

If he really wanted, the pope could ensure that this filth and vermin would not receive when he is saying Mass. As well, he could instruct the bishops of the world, and the United States specifically, to ban from communion these haughty, proud, unrepentant public sinners who do not even acknowledge that their crimes are sins.


sitetest

8 posted on 05/09/2013 6:05:26 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Venturer

I agree - this is a very good way of handling it. At some point, we’ll have to discuss whether any priest should give communion to a “notorious public sinner,” unless that person has publicly renounced his sin and repented.

But this is a step in the right direction.


9 posted on 05/09/2013 6:09:11 AM PDT by livius
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To: Venturer

All very nice, but then he need so start forcing that practice upon his American Bishops in blue states.


10 posted on 05/09/2013 6:29:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sitetest
If he really wanted, the pope could ensure that this filth and vermin would not receive when he is saying Mass.

Or he could have told Biden personally and given him a message to have San Fran Gran Nan call him for a chat.


11 posted on 05/09/2013 6:56:24 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: NYer

Not sure I agree with the reasoning - even Jesus spent more time with the low-downs because they were the ones who need to be ministered to. What is in a person’s heart, and what may come out of sharing in the taking of Communion is not for us to decide.


12 posted on 05/09/2013 7:09:43 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: sitetest
As well, he could instruct the bishops of the world, and the United States specifically, to ban from communion these haughty, proud, unrepentant public sinners who do not even acknowledge that their crimes are sins.

Or he could have a public, solemn excommunication ritual where he formally excommunicates publicly unrepentant sinners like Biden, Pelosi, Sebelius, Cuomo, etc.

13 posted on 05/09/2013 7:33:22 AM PDT by ELS
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To: NYer

How can any priest know if someone is repentant or not?


14 posted on 05/09/2013 8:24:20 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: A.A. Cunningham

* sigh *


15 posted on 05/09/2013 8:41:58 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: ELS

Works for me.


16 posted on 05/09/2013 8:42:52 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: NYer
Because, he says, unrepentant public sinners could slip in among the faithful, and he does not want to back up their hypocrisy.

Yeah there's nothing but God-fearing, humble penitents at the juvenile detention center, is there? No chance that an unrepentant one slipped through in a place like that.

17 posted on 05/09/2013 8:47:40 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: stuartcr
Dear stuartcr,

It's usually easier to know that someone is unrepentant than that he is repentant.

A creature like biden appears clearly unrepentant. It struts around proclaiming its baby-murder credentials. In public matters, it's difficult to imagine a realistic scenario where someone might feign unrepentance while secretly repenting.

It's more difficult to know when someone who says he is repentant is sincerely so. Here, if there is no external evidence to suggest otherwise, the Church gives the benefit of the doubt.

If someone is feigning repentance while secretly nursing hidden unrepentance, if he persists in this, he will find that at his particular judgment, he may have fooled men, but he will not have fooled God, Who sees into every heart.


sitetest

18 posted on 05/09/2013 8:48:29 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Venturer

I am sad that they received the Eucharist at all, and that the Pope did not stand up for principles and allowed it to happen.

Pope Francis is merely turning an error of commission into an error of omission.


19 posted on 05/09/2013 8:56:32 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: sitetest

Thanks, I guess the Pope doesn’t give the benefit of the doubt.


20 posted on 05/09/2013 8:57:55 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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