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To: Salvation

“Do you understand the Sacraments of the Catholic Church?”


Of course I do. I simply reject them, since they propose that grace or the Holy Spirit can be delivered by the hand and will of man, when Christ says it is not by blood, or by the will of the flesh, or by the will of man, but by the will of God.

Being baptized Catholic (and rebaptized when I actually believed, as opposed to a child who neither believes or even knows anything), I know that baptism in and of itself does not regenerate a human being. Baptism does not bring about a rebith in the Spirit. Otherwise, I should have lived a regenerated life, and every Catholic child would grow up to be a good Catholic, as the scripture teaches that God, who starts a work in you, sees the work to its completion.

The sacraments of the Catholic Church, therefore, do not have any of the power that the scripture would suggest they should have. There is an absence of evidence for a difference between the baptized child and the unbaptized child when they grow up. The only real difference are in those who have been born again by the Spirit.


12 posted on 05/09/2013 5:20:34 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Why even bother with baptism then?


13 posted on 05/09/2013 5:37:06 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
do not have any of the power that the scripture would suggest they should have

Wrote any better scripture yourself lately?

14 posted on 05/09/2013 5:49:26 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Why or why would you want to rejct the power of the priest given in his ordination (another Sacrament).

This is the power of Jesus.

I can’t believe that you reject the power of Jesus. At least that is what you are seeming to say.


18 posted on 05/09/2013 6:13:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

**The sacraments of the Catholic Church, therefore, do not have any of the power that the scripture would suggest they should have. **

LOL!

I can’t believe that you are saying these words, rejecting the Scriptures that you build sola scriptura on.

Oh my!


20 posted on 05/09/2013 6:16:11 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
From the Bible, the words of Jesus -- I'll take it. The words from Acts and John -- why don't you believe these?

"Do penance and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins."    (Acts 2:38)
 
Jesus Christ said: "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."    (John 3:5)
 
"Why tarriest thou?  Rise up, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins."    (Acts 22:16)
 
        "And there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews.  This man came to Jesus by night, and said to Him:  Rabbi, we know that Thou are come a teacher from God; for no man can do these signs which Thou dost, unless God be with him.  Jesus answered, and said to him:  Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again, He cannot see the kingdom of God.  Nicodemus saith to Him:  How can a man be born when he is old?  Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb, and be born again?  Jesus answered:  Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."  (John 3:1-5)
 

24 posted on 05/09/2013 6:25:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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