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Gossip is like slapping Jesus, Pope asserts
cna ^ | May 18, 2013

Posted on 05/19/2013 2:33:42 PM PDT by NYer

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To: HoneysuckleRose

I am absolutely dumbfounded by this statement. I have never actually heard anyone, saving possibly a sociopath, publicly admit to such a thing.

May I suggest that a bit of humility is in order. Believe it or not, unless you are the greatest of all saints, there are actually people on this planet who are closer to the Lord than you are, know Him better than you do, and have wisdom to impart. If you truly wish to draw near to Him, you would do well to acknowledge that, and learn about Him through wiser (and more humble) souls rather only through your private revelation. We are all capable of great self-deception—it is the prevailing weakness of all humans—and the input of others is priceless.


41 posted on 05/22/2013 6:59:16 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: HoneysuckleRose
You are very much mistaken.

First point: Shimei said that David had come to ruin because he was a murderer, and so he had. Shimei told the truth, and all truth is God's truth, whether it is spoken by a madman or not. He was not "innocent" for cursing the Lord's anointed, but David oscillated between repentance and vengeance, and I have no evidence that the latter is more pleasing to the Lord than the former.

Second point: Bearing false witness against a neighbor is still against the Commandments, even when your neighbor is the Pope.

Third point: don't write back to me. I can tolerate malice only in the smallest doses. My instructions are to pray, and I will, Honeysuckle Rose.

42 posted on 05/22/2013 7:14:37 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can obseve a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: ottbmare

I don’t understand why you are so offended and quick to possibly label me a sociopath just for me saying that God is my moral teacher and not man. If that is what man has to teach me, then I want nothing of it.

Man’s “morals” can become askew from the influence of this world so that it causes men to leave the narrow path that God teaches by his Word, to the point where even Christians start justifying sin by passing laws to protect evil; therefore, only God can be an accurate teacher for morality.

There is nothing wrong with my statement, and for you to find something wrong with it says more about what is wrong in your own mind and heart ma’am, with all due respect.

“There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” Proverbs 14:12

Therefore, I will put my trust in the Lord and in him alone.


43 posted on 05/22/2013 7:25:07 PM PDT by HoneysuckleRose
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To: Mrs. Don-o

With a clear conscience I can tell you there was no malice in my words. There still is no malice. It is sin in your own heart to think such against me and to even tell me not to write you back after having accused me.

You like the Pope, I understand. I am not talking about individual people, because God can save anyone, but, rather the office of the Pope is a man in the seat of Jesus Christ. That is a religious and historical fact; therefore, that office does not obey God. No man has a right to sit in that seat except the Son of God. The Catholic Church disobeys God on many things, but I guess you don’t want to see it? So we will agree to disagree.

As for Shimei and David. Didn’t you read 1 Kings 2? Shimei did wickedly by cursing God’s anointed. What Shimei said was not from God, because whatever one did to the king one did to God. God would not curse himself or the throne of which He had established before Himself forever. David was being humble about his encounter with Shemei, he wasn’t declaring the curse was from the Lord. It clearly wasn’t, because the Lord kept his promise to David and made him king.
In 1 Kings 2 we find out that what Shimei said was actually wicked.


44 posted on 05/22/2013 8:08:41 PM PDT by HoneysuckleRose
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Honeysuckle Rose, I was sitting here with a heart full of contentment, enjoying a nice Green Onion and Basil pesto from my very own garden, by the grace of God and His East Tennessee rain, and then you went and done it.

I had planned to pray for you in my Rosary, but now --- yes, yes, I'll do more. I'll remember you at Mass. Watch out. Raise your head. Whatever you do, don't duck. You are being blessed.

45 posted on 05/23/2013 6:59:05 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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