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Diversity, not Jesus, saves says Presiding Bishop
anglicanink ^ | George Conger

Posted on 05/20/2013 3:43:57 PM PDT by Morgana

The Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church has denounced the Apostle Paul as mean-spirited and bigoted for having released a slave girl from demonic bondage as reported in Acts 16:16-34 .

In her sermon delivered at All Saints Church in Curaçao in the diocese of Venezuela, Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori condemned those who did not share her views as enemies of the Holy Spirit.

The presiding bishop opened her remarks with an observation on the Dutch slave past. “The history of this place tells some tragic stories about the inability of some to see the beauty in other skin colors or the treasure of cultures they didn’t value or understand,” she said.

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Excuse me while I go clean up one big pile of vomit.
1 posted on 05/20/2013 3:43:57 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Sounds like she’s a bishop for Satan.


2 posted on 05/20/2013 3:46:21 PM PDT by ParityErr (It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.)
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To: ParityErr

I’m thinking now that maybe there was a good reason for not allowing women to be bishops for all of those centuries...


3 posted on 05/20/2013 3:49:15 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

This “bishop” is a lunatic. Maybe nobama can make her a Czar of something.


4 posted on 05/20/2013 3:50:16 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Morgana
Oh my. I thought this was a joke. I really wish it was.

Pray for her. Seriously.

5 posted on 05/20/2013 3:50:55 PM PDT by grimalkin (Once abolish the God and the government becomes the God. -G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Morgana

Doesn’t actually sound like a real church


6 posted on 05/20/2013 3:51:30 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Morgana
treasure of cultures they didn’t value or understand,” she said.

I guess she would be included in the class of people who can't see fair treatment for cultures she doesn't value or understand.

7 posted on 05/20/2013 3:51:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Morgana
history of this place tells some tragic stories about the inability of some to see the beauty in other skin colors

This is an amazing way to put this. She is saying that atrocities (slavery? genocide?) is acceptable against people who don't have, "beauty." Human beings don't have a fundamental dignity, or right to live free of oppression? She doesn't believe in human compassion?

8 posted on 05/20/2013 3:54:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Morgana

**The Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church has denounced the Apostle Paul as mean-spirited and bigoted for having released a slave girl from demonic bondage as reported in Acts 16:16-34 .**

Huh?


9 posted on 05/20/2013 3:56:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Salvation I have no clue either. She must be tripping acid or reading a version of the bible you and I don’t have.


10 posted on 05/20/2013 4:05:10 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

I hope the good Lord saves me a video of this blasphemous whore for Satan splitting hell wide open when she dies in eternal misery. When you blaspheme the Holy Spirit as she has done, your days are numbered. Hope it’s a small number.


11 posted on 05/20/2013 4:17:40 PM PDT by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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To: nickcarraway

Yeah, LIKE HER OWN.


12 posted on 05/20/2013 4:25:19 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Morgana

I think I’ve been arguing with a couple of her followers on another thread. It takes a special brand of stupid to twist The Gospel in support of sin.


13 posted on 05/20/2013 4:27:04 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Morgana
Paul can’t abide something he won’t see as beautiful or holy, so he tries to destroy it.

Er...Paul casted out a demon in this girl. I suppose if one thinks that a demon is "beautiful" or "holy", then it's pretty clear what side of the tracks they're on. And it says something about the people who listen to this as well.

14 posted on 05/20/2013 5:29:12 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: zot

pro demon anglican bishop


15 posted on 05/20/2013 6:15:38 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: jsanders2001

re: I’m thinking now that maybe there was a good reason for not allowing women to be bishops for all of those centuries...

Well, I would be inclined to agree with you if there weren’t so many male clergy spouting heresy as well.


16 posted on 05/20/2013 6:26:39 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Morgana
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She is Bat Crazy. She is so far on the dark side it looks like possession . What a twisting of verses. Soon we will have to become "exorcists."

" She continued stating: “Human beings have a long history of discounting and devaluing difference, finding it offensive or even evil. That kind of blindness is what leads to oppression, slavery, and often, war. Yet there remains a holier impulse in human life toward freedom, dignity, and the full flourishing of those who have been kept apart or on the margins of human communities.”

Just as the forces of historical inevitability led to the ending of industrial slavery, so too would the march of progress lead to a change in attitude towards homosexuality, she argued.

“We live with the continuing tension between holier impulses that encourage us to see the image of God in all human beings and the reality that some of us choose not to see that glimpse of the divine, and instead use other people as means to an end. We’re seeing something similar right now in the changing attitudes and laws about same-sex relationships, as many people come to recognize that different is not the same thing as wrong. For many people, it can be difficult to see God at work in the world around us, particularly if God is doing something unexpected.”

To illustrate her point presiding bishop turned to the book of Acts, noting “There are some remarkable examples of that kind of blindness in the readings we heard this morning, and slavery is wrapped up in a lot of it. Paul is annoyed at the slave girl who keeps pursuing him, telling the world that he and his companions are slaves of God. She is quite right. She’s telling the same truth Paul and others claim for themselves,” Bishop Jefferts Schori said, referencing the first chapter of the Epistle to the Romans.

“But Paul is annoyed, perhaps for being put in his place, and he responds by depriving her of her gift of spiritual awareness. Paul can’t abide something he won’t see as beautiful or holy, so he tries to destroy it. It gets him thrown in prison. That’s pretty much where he’s put himself by his own refusal to recognize that she, too, shares in God’s nature, just as much as he does – maybe more so!,” the presiding bishop said.

The New Testament passage goes on to say that Paul and Silas were imprisoned for freeing the girl of her demonic possession. Presiding Bishop noted “an earthquake opens the doors and sets them free, and now Paul and his friends most definitely discern the presence of God. The jailer doesn’t – he thinks his end is at hand.”

However, Paul now repents of his mistake in casting out the spirit of divination, she argues. “This time, Paul remembers who he is and that all his neighbors are reflections of God, and he reaches out to his frightened captor. This time Paul acts with compassion rather than annoyance, and as a result the company of Jesus’ friends expands to include a whole new household. It makes me wonder what would have happened to that slave girl if Paul had seen the spirit of God in her.”

In support her argument for radical inclusion and diversity over doctrine Bishop Jefferts Schori adds that the day’s reading “from Revelation pushes us in the same direction, outward and away from our own self-righteousness, inviting us to look harder for God’s gift and presence all around us. Jesus says he’s looking for everybody, anyone who’s looking for good news, anybody who is thirsty. There are no obstacles or barriers – just come. God is at work everywhere, even if we can’t or won’t see it immediately.”

She concluded her sermon by stating that we are not justified by our faith but by our respect for diversity.

“Looking for the reflection of God’s glory all around us means changing our lenses, or letting the scales on our eyes fall away. That kind of change isn’t easy for anyone, but it’s the only road to the kingdom of God.”

Salvation comes not from being cleansed of our sins by the atoning sacrificial death of Jesus Christ, but through the divinization of humanity through the work of the human will. “We are here, among all the other creatures of God’s creation, to be transformed into the glory intended from the beginning. The next time we feel the pain of that change, perhaps instead of annoyance or angry resentment we might pray for a new pair of glasses. When resentment about difference or change builds up within us, it’s really an invitation to look inward for the wound that cries out for a healing dose of glory. We will find it in the strangeness of our neighbor. Celebrate that difference – for it’s necessary for the healing of this world – and know that the wholeness we so crave lies in recognizing the glory of God’s creative invitation. God among us in human form is the most glorious act we know.”

Astonishing!!! What Insanity. Only the Spirit of Confusion has this one. Yikes.

18 posted on 05/20/2013 8:22:30 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Morgana
However, Paul now repents of his mistake in casting out the spirit of divination, she argues. "This time, Paul remembers who he is and that all his neighbors are reflections of God, and he reaches out to his frightened captor. This time Paul acts with compassion rather than annoyance, and as a result the company of Jesus' friends expands to include a whole new household. It makes me wonder what would have happened to that slave girl if Paul had seen the spirit of God in her."

Interesting take on that section of the scriptures...So how does one arrive at the conclusion??? I'll bet the woman actually believes what she's saying...

The woman in the scriptures is following Paul and the guys pretty much proclaiming Jesus just as Paul is...And Paul casts the demon out of the woman...

Apparently the female bishop takes this as Paul casting out of the woman the spirit that proclaims Jesus...Looking over the verses carefully, I can see where this might come from if a person is really ignorant of the rest of the scriptures or if the person is looking at the scriptures thru the eyes of a pagan who has studied religion (not bible) and philosophy and tried to apply those to the bible...

And I'll bet the preacher DOES NOT encourage the flock to spend much time studying the scriptures...Like a good religionist, she wouldn't put too much stock in the scriptures anyway at least based on her vision of the scriptures...

The saddest part is there is a flock...A group of people who are following the pagan teachings of the woman...

But hey, she's got the robes...She's got the funny hat and the respected title...People call her bishop...

And it all comes back to the same thing...How do we know who is telling the truth???

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

19 posted on 05/20/2013 9:12:25 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: GreyFriar

Yeah, she’s a pro demon anglican bishop, with no sympathy for the poor slave girl who was being used as a medium. Paul set that girl free.


20 posted on 05/20/2013 9:20:09 PM PDT by zot
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