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To: NYer

I learned the latin mass as an altar boy in 5th grade...two years later, after 2000 years or so, they changed it to english...and these guys are pissed?


3 posted on 05/22/2013 3:18:52 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

yeah really, the priests are a bunch of circus performers...it ain’t for them it is for God


10 posted on 05/22/2013 3:36:09 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: gorush
Ad Deum qui laetificat juventutem meam...

The endings in the Confiteor were a bit of a problem to keep straight (first a bunch of datives, then a bunch of accusatives, although I had never heard of those terms when I memorized the prayers), and the excessive number of silibants in the Suscipiat, but the Latin had a beauty that is missing in the translations.

The first Christians in Rome were Greek-speakers...they probably had the same complaint when the Church switched from Greek to Latin.

14 posted on 05/22/2013 3:45:52 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: gorush; steve86

I travel 22 miles just to get the Latin Mass with traditional music done WELL from the loft in the back of the Church (built 1985).

The Mass is Novus Ordo, post Vatican Two, that is, as you know, and where the priest delivers a sermon about the readings often pertinent to current events. There has never been a female on the altar and Communion is via procession and then on the tongue with tincture by the priest and deacons, no EMs.

This pastor is very reverent to VatII and yearly travels to Rome with a willing group from the congregation and school and visits with the Holy Father.

I went to mass last week locally and was subject to a priest who was late due to the “Basketball Game, you can understand”. Oh yes, everyone applauded. I cannot applaud at Mass nor can I take the sea of denim- and shorts! and Flip flops!

The music is vapid. It takes 3 minutes after consecration first for hugging and shaking hands and another for the procession of “extraordinary” ministers - (devised originally for Naval deployment at sea) to do whatever it is they do and them charge back to get communion out, as we are all in a rush to get out of there? That’s what passes for extraordinary.

None of this has anything to do with Vatican II. It was used as an excuse. The new interpretation goes nowhere far enough.

For every one of me, willing to overlook, for the sake of the Eucharist, how many have been lost? How many men can’t take the emasculinization and the lack of reverence - the hand holding, the girls pushing the boys off the altar, women oh what I had last week were two women, sleeveless, lecturing. They couldn’t pronounce the geographical places from the second reading of Pentecost, no problem giggles, “uh, uh”.

If they want to take over, they’d better do it as well as a self respecting man would and that wasn’t it. It’s GOD’s WORD.

Huff!

No one EVER asked nor took a poll to find out how the congregation liked the New (1970’s) Mass. Not anyone.

And not many churches (one in 10,000?) offer any kind of alternative.

Here’s a hint: The men, and the men attending Mass alone, attend the Latin Mass with Gregorian Chant, procession of properly attired men and boys, NO hand holding, No peace greeting.


18 posted on 05/22/2013 4:08:18 PM PDT by stanne
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To: gorush
thank you... bring back the Latin Mass
19 posted on 05/22/2013 4:11:57 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: gorush
I learned the latin mass as an altar boy in 5th grade...two years later, after 2000 years or so, they changed it to english...

I had the same experience but with me it was about two weeks later.

22 posted on 05/22/2013 4:20:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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