[Cicero]

None of these liberal priests complained when everyone had to learn the new order Mass. Or when the idiot bishop’s committee and the ICEL came out with an English translation that distorted and mistranslated even those new Latin texts. Or when the parish churches had to buy new paperback missals all the time because the new service was far more variable and complicated.

You can see in that photo a typical remnant congregation from one of those liberal parishes, like several I have been forced to belong to. Many empty pews, many older people headed for funerals, only a few young, and many of the congregants holding up their hands and arms, presumably for the Our Father, in a way that was never authorized but almost universally practiced.

Why so few people in that church? Probably because the dissident pastors over the past few decades drove most of their flock out the doors.

[Biggirl]

But remember, in the catacombs, the early Christians were often portrayed being shown with their hands rasied in prayer.

As I have said in a previous post, I grew up under the shadows of VC II and not knowing anything of Latin. From time to time, the parish choir I sing in, does a hymm in the Latin, mostly during the special liturgical seasons of the Church year.

[A.A. Cunningham]

many of the congregants holding up their hands and arms, presumably for the Our Father, in a way that was never authorized but almost universally practiced.

Only the improperly catechized engage in the orans position and its practice is far from universal.

At the Lord’s Prayer, the priest stands with arms outstretched in a gesture of supplication, the orans or “praying” position, on behalf of the people. The deacon, whose posture is governed by the liturgical rubrics, is instructed to stand with hands folded together in the same manner as the congregation. The faithful fold their hands, in a traditional posture of petitioning, to signify the humility of our congregation before God. Other gestures, such as extending arms or holding hands, are not found in the norms of the Mass. That our gestures are different does not mean that one role is more important than another—rather it points to a diversity of parts to the body of Christ.