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To: NYer
Friend of mine has 2 boys in scouting sponsored by the Methodist church here. They have a couple of weeks before they reach their next achievement goals and then they are finished. I predict scouting will be dead WITHIN THE YEAR. their won't be enough participants to even open the doors.

Question,: How do you keep the belief in God clause in the oath and accept homo's? That is basically saying the church accepts homosexuality. There better be a line drawn somewhere and it better be quick. The Methodists have already bowed to Satan with homosexual marriage and other changes. I have been attacked to no end when suggesting here that Catholics are doing the same. Catholics will have to make a bold statement or just join in with other denominations like Presbyterians, Lutheran, Methodists, Unitarians, ect, in the dustbin of history. Accepting Pelosi, Biden, Kennedy's, Kerry and their ilk without shame has infected the governing of the Church. I've been saying for years now that the liberals are running the Church only to be flamed with some comment from a stray Bishop or Cardinal with some lonely Op-Ed somewhere in a local rag. There are local parishes that are still conservative, but that doesn't represent the whole church when you take into consideration the whole world. A French Catholic is much different than a West Texas Catholic. IMHO, we are outnumbered and dying a slow death. If you just look at the Catholics of South and Central America, they are more like Hugo Chavez than pope John Paul. The new pope must still be evaluated, but I fear he is an open socialist and will bend to the populist opinions of the day.

41 posted on 05/26/2013 7:25:22 PM PDT by chuckles
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41 ... I predict scouting will be dead WITHIN THE YEAR. ...

The "suits" at BSA National announced the results of their study groups in APR 2013 in that, at worst, they can expect to lose 13.5% of the membership. To them, that is acceptable collateral damage. While I share your sentiment about wanting to see a mass Exodus, it isn't going to happen. The only denominations that have stood up to shout down the BSA are (1) Southern Baptist Convention, (2) Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, (3) Assembly of God, and (4) Presbyterian Church in America.

... The Methodists have already bowed to Satan with homosexual marriage and other changes. ...

You need to get your facts correct. During 4/24-5/04/2012, the UMC held its quadrennial General Conference in Tampa, FL. Delegates voted by about 60 % for to 40 % against softening the language on homosexuality in The Book of Discipline. Delegates retained their denomination's stance that homosexual acts were "incompatible with Christian teaching”. There does appear to be a schism coming very soon in the UMC over homosexuality.

Catholics will have to make a bold statement or just join in with other denominations like Presbyterians, Lutheran, Methodists, Unitarians, ect, in the dustbin of history. ...

The Presbyterian Church-USA and Evangelical Lutheran Church in America both ordain homosexuals. They haven't adopted homosexual marriage, yet, but that is coming down the pike. But their are other sects within the Presbyterian and Lutheran Churches which are orthodox and holding the line against homosexuality. Yes, the Unitarians are totally lost over homosexuality. As for the Methodists, well, regarding BSA, they are, for the moment, in agreement with the Mormons and Catholics that they can continue in Scouting with this new membership rule.

48 posted on 05/26/2013 9:45:33 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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