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To: slapshot
It not about the liturgy; it’s about the $$ for the RC church

The Catholic Church is the largest charitable organization on the planet, bringing relief and comfort to those in need. Catholic Charities, Food for the Poor, Catholic Relief Services, St. Jude's, and America's Second Harvest alone total $5,570,000,000, which is greater than #1 on the list for America. With God‟s grace, we started hospitals to care for the sick and orphanages to serve the poor. We educate more children than any other scholarly or religious institution. We founded the college (university) system. We defend the dignity of all human life, and uphold marriage and family. Can your church make that claim?

10 posted on 05/30/2013 6:16:18 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

and have enough $$ to spare to hire 500$/hr attorneys on a regular basis to smear the reputations of victims of alcoholic pedophile priests.


13 posted on 05/30/2013 6:33:23 AM PDT by slapshot ("Were not gonna take it anymore" Twisted Sister)
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To: NYer

“Lord, did we not....perform many powerful works in your name?”


20 posted on 05/30/2013 7:17:41 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: NYer

It’s interesting. You post the article criticizing Dolan, and then you run to the defense of the bishops. Puzzling. If I were a sceptic I might be inclined to believe that Cardinal Dolan, himself wrote your unabashed defense of the bishops of the Church. Note well, my criticism is not of the Church, but only of the bishops of the Church.

Like the bishops, you seem to believe that Christ set up His Church for the purpose of feeding the poor, clothing the naked, caring for the sick, educating the masses and so on. Respectfully, if that is what you believe, you are wrong. And if you didn’t know, the Church, prior to Vatican II, use to teach that as well. Check out the Baltimore Catechism some time and you’ll learn that Christ founded His Church for one reason––to lead all mankind to salvation––not to feed the poor.

The bishops, and apparently you as well, believe that the role of the Church is to compete with the federal, state, secular (including humanistic and atheistic) bureaucracies that have those same goals as well. Yes, the bishops are greatly praised by the NYT and the W/P for their great humanitarian efforts, but while they preen for the cameras, many souls that the Church was founded to serve are being lost by the wayside. They are, indeed, sheep without a shepherd.

As for the quaint notion that Catholic schools, at any level, have much if anything to do with teaching the Catholic faith, read up some time as to what, and by whom, is actually being taught in our Catholic grade schools and high schools today. The universities since the Land O Lakes agreement are an immoral disaster.

So although your praise of the work of the bishops may sound very “Catholic” to you and others (can you say low-information voter?), you have been greatly misled by those who have instructed you. May I suggest that you subscribe to the Catholic Family News or the Remnant news publications and read them for a few months. If you disagree with their points of view, fine; but at least you will have heard the other side, so to speak.


32 posted on 05/30/2013 11:18:05 AM PDT by tomsbartoo (St Pius X watch over us)
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To: NYer

BS. Most of those “Catholic” organizations are run by lay boards and staffed by the general population. The only thing that’s Catholic about them is history, the sign out front and a dividend check that goes to the convent to pay for geriatric care.

Otherwise, they’re no more Catholic than my cat.


37 posted on 05/30/2013 11:40:04 AM PDT by michigancatholic (No one has the right to tell you what you experienced if they weren't there, bornacatholic)
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To: NYer

Is the St. Vincent de Paul Society that helps the poor active on the east coast.

Sometimes when people visit the poor here — maybe they just moved into an apartment and have no furniture at all — they always check the bathroom and leave one roll of toilet paper and one bar of soap for them.

Simple things that aren’t always thought of.


54 posted on 05/30/2013 4:55:12 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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