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Why America Will Fall
http://catholicknight.blogspot.com ^ | September 6, 2012 | The Catholic Knight

Posted on 05/31/2013 4:24:04 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: markomalley
If men were angles, then no government would be needed.

My view is that if you keep the power separated, and competing, you limit chance for mischief. Once one group gets to much, it will work to destroy the other powers.

The other view is that having a strong central authority makes change easier. There is less people to work through. Both have their merits.

41 posted on 05/31/2013 10:29:09 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
"If men were angles..."

Now, don't be obtuse ...

42 posted on 05/31/2013 10:31:56 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("Oh, man, that's a lot of Indians!" [LTC George A. Custer, 1876, near the Little Bighorn Valley])
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To: BlueLancer
I really, relay, hate the auto correct on my phone. /sarcasm
43 posted on 05/31/2013 10:35:40 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: BlueLancer

Careful now, the reasoning may be equilateral and not right.


44 posted on 05/31/2013 10:36:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: BlueLancer

Perhaps he was trying to be acute.
Obviously, if men were angles only the rules of geometry would be needed.


45 posted on 05/31/2013 10:37:38 AM PDT by tony549 (Stuck in SoCal)
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To: Lakeshark
...what is this guy smoking?

I'm pretty sure that Voris was one of the Catholic monarchist FReepers that got the ZOT. His crackpot disciples live on. Definitely one of the more-Catholic-than-the-Pope gang.

46 posted on 05/31/2013 11:15:08 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: tony549

Perhaps he was trying to be acute.
Obviously, if men were angles only the rules of geometry would be needed.

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What if you live in a non-Euclidean world though, and parallel lines meet?


47 posted on 05/31/2013 11:15:21 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Alex Murphy; NKP_Vet; BlueDragon; HarleyD; Gamecock; markomalley
Everything is always "the problem with America". Look what is happening across the globe, in Europe, Asia, Indonesia, etc. What we're really seeing is a spiritual darkening. This is not an isolated instance.

Michael Voris is a devout Catholic who really believes that they simply have listen more to the Pope and everything will be hunky-dory. The real problem is the hardness of the heart.

Luk_18:8 I tell you, he will give justice to them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?"

48 posted on 05/31/2013 12:01:54 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: NKP_Vet

And people wonder why Premillennial Protestants have so much antipathy towards the Papacy. What Voorhis wants, Christianity ruled by the Pope, is the very thing prophesied for the end time. A return to Papist tyranny. No thanks.


49 posted on 05/31/2013 1:01:08 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

No Kidding!


50 posted on 05/31/2013 3:35:50 PM PDT by bkaycee (John 3:16)
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To: NKP_Vet

Hard to believe Voris is a Vatican II “neo” Catholic.


51 posted on 05/31/2013 3:47:38 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Alex Murphy

The trouble with the likes of Voris and his Fromish fans around here, is this dreaming for return to Catholic Monarchy, indulged in while simultaneously condemning our Constitutional Republic form of government, ripping on it, up one side and down the other, is that doing so simply greases the skids for the "social justice" statists among their own church (and elsewhere) to steadily and surely tear down the Republic, replacing it with a form of Monarchy (like King Obama) which is the worst of possible outcomes, and will only worsen further if we cannot soon reverse the process.

Look at Venezuela. The fat King Chavez just died, and buried in the bosom of the Church but his crony was able to continue leveraging so-called social justice issues (long advocated by legions of Catholic priests) and jigger the voting enough to become the new "benevolent dictatorship", socialist quasi-king replacement.

Voris and his ilk won't get what they think they want, and all of us will be in increasing bondage of State.

The (so called) "Affordable Health Car Bill" is evidence. 3,400 pages of "law" followed by well in excess of 10,000 pages of code. The statists LOVE it. More than half of the Catholic vote supported it (with American bishops generally smiling at it), until they learned of some of it's provisions (which anyone but fools could have predicted would be included in it!) but by then it was too late...

52 posted on 05/31/2013 6:34:21 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: HarleyD

When I posted this article I knew there would be the few anti-Catholic types to weigh in and disregard anything the article says and anything Michael Voris has to say. Such is the case for speaking the truth about Christianity.


53 posted on 05/31/2013 7:34:56 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Theodore R.

Immigration destroyed America.


54 posted on 05/31/2013 7:48:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: NKP_Vet; HarleyD

We’d all do better listening to what HarleyD had to say, than Voris.


55 posted on 05/31/2013 7:48:33 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: NKP_Vet; HarleyD

My reply to the article was the longest, and most content-laden regarding Voris’ article of any that you were pinged to. Was there a reason you were not responding to it? Do you agree with his message that our country is doomed?


56 posted on 05/31/2013 7:55:15 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: NKP_Vet

What a daft reasoning. America would fall if people give up the idea of liberty and prefer a granny state. Oh wait, most non-freepers already did that


57 posted on 05/31/2013 8:58:09 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: redgolum; NKP_Vet

Correct. Religious pluralism is fine if all religions are respectedrather than French Laicite where no religion is respected. Mono religious states are not possible and never have been. A diversity of thought is natural. The exception to the rule that multiculturalism works is if you put Islam into the mix.


58 posted on 05/31/2013 9:27:05 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: markomalley

I think I see what you are driving at. Ruled by prophets?

Though that may be desirable, if selling on that point, but delivering instead a form of new Sanhedrin bureaucracy interacting with some fantasy of "benevolent" Catholic Monarch, or simply by direct papal rule, no thanks.

Been there, done that, had the t-shirt to prove it, but it got burned at the stake along with the rest of me...

59 posted on 05/31/2013 9:32:58 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: redgolum

A monarchys not a bad idea - if it was you or me :) but in a real world a limited republic with local democracy us the best. By this I mean that small communities, say the size of a parish should be self governing in terms of everyone involved. Sadly most people don’t care or have no time. In my apartment block, only 10% bother taking part in block discussions which are once a month....anyway, govt at higher levels should be republican representatives of communities and should be modelled in the early us republic. I believe though, that the power of the president today should be curtailed, probably make a primeminister for domestic issues where he has to only work in consensus with the states, and a more external focussed president.


60 posted on 05/31/2013 9:36:59 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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