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To: Mercat

No Church is infallible, and no Church has 100% agreement on anything - thus the notion that you have no choice is wrong - and the comparison of this to the most fundamental truth of all of recorded history is a straw and false comparison.


10 posted on 06/01/2013 2:16:12 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

So I’m guessing you vote evil, demonic, idolator. LOL


14 posted on 06/01/2013 2:37:03 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The Catholic Church was established by Jesus (God).

That thou art Peter [Kipha, a rock], and upon this rock [Kipha] I will build my church [ekklesian], and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven”. Then he commanded his disciples, that they should tell no one that he was Jesus the Christ (Matthew 16:13-20; Mark 8:27-30; Luke 9:18-21).

By the word “rock” the Saviour cannot have meant Himself, but only Peter, as is so much more apparent in Aramaic in which the same word (Kipha) is used for “Peter” and “rock”. His statement then admits of but one explanation, namely, that He wishes to make Peter the head of the whole community of those who believed in Him as the true Messias; that through this foundation (Peter) the Kingdom of Christ would be unconquerable; that the spiritual guidance of the faithful was placed in the hands of Peter, as the special representative of Christ. This meaning becomes so much the clearer when we remember that the words “bind” and “loose” are not metaphorical, but Jewish juridical terms. It is also clear that the position of Peter among the other Apostles and in the Christian community was the basis for the Kingdom of God on earth, that is, the Church of Christ. Peter was personally installed as Head of the Apostles by Christ Himself. This foundation created for the Church by its Founder could not disappear with the person of Peter, but was intended to continue and did continue (as actual history shows) in the primacy of the Roman Church and its bishops.

From Catholic Encyclopedia http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11744a.htm

You either have Faith and believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church or you don’t have that faith.


36 posted on 06/01/2013 5:23:48 PM PDT by ADSUM
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