[American Constitutionalist]

The reason why some can't except the doctrine of election is because they refuse to see how depraved the human nature really is.
There is no inherent good in humans as far as God's perspective is and no amount of keeping the law or doing good with make you acceptible in God's sight, never.

[ForAmerica]

The reason why some can't except the doctrine of election is because they refuse to see how depraved the human nature really is.
There is no inherent good in humans as far as God's perspective is and no amount of keeping the law or doing good with make you acceptible in God's sight, never.

I agree. No one can understand salvation until they understand how helpless and hopelessly lost man is by our nature and are in need of a savior. In Adam all die!

But there are groups that claim to be Christians that profess works are enough to please God. If that's true, why did Jesus Christ have to die?