Skip to comments.LDS seminary teacher charged with burglary, theft of prescription drugs
Posted on 06/06/2013 5:20:47 AM PDT by Colofornian
ROOSEVELT A man responsible for teaching religious education classes to LDS high school students is facing criminal charges after investigators say he burglarized a home on a Sunday afternoon to steal prescription painkillers.
Brian Dean Thacker was charged Wednesday in 8th District Court with burglary, a second-degree felony, theft, a class B misdemeanor, and possession of a controlled substance, a class B misdemeanor.
On May 26, Thacker entered a home about 2 p.m. and took Lortab from a medicine cabinet, according to Duchesne County sheriff's detective Dela Rowley.
A woman was upstairs in the home at the time and heard Thacker moving around downstairs, Rowley said. She waited until Thacker left and then looked out the window and recognized him, the detective said.
Thacker, 42, was interviewed after the incident was reported to the sheriff's office. He corroborated the woman's account of what happened and admitted to taking Lortab from the home, Rowley said.
Thacker served as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints seminary teacher for Union High School during the 2012-13 academic year. Prior to that, he was the seminary teacher for LDS students at Altamont High School.
"The church expects the highest level of conduct from its seminary teachers," LDS Church spokeswoman Ruth Todd said. "Brian Thacker is on administrative leave."
So far investigators do not believe Thacker was using prescription painkillers while teaching seminary classes or soliciting medication from his students, Rowley said.
Thacker has entered an inpatient drug treatment program. His first court appearance is set for June 27.
Another Lds Seminary teacher from three years ago: Ex-LDS Seminary principal gets 5-to-life for abusing student
What does it matter if the perp is LDS, Baptist, Catholic or Orthodox Jew? The story is about a burglary.
I wonder how he KNEW those drugs would be there??
The back story is that MORMONs are much better than everyone else.
How many thefts have been prevented by Mormons?
How long have you believed that? Are you a Mormon?
Talk to the reporter.
hahaha That’s what mormons say about themselves, “they are better”.
Elsie said that. Is she a Mormon?
Why ascribe to Mormons that which Elsie does?
I do not intend to be a smart aleck, just as I am sure you are not feigning an illiterate.
Which word gives you the most trouble.
It is really none of my business, but; are you a Mormon?
I am not a mormon.
Elsie refers to mormons as such because that’s how they refer to themselves.
It’s pretty simple really.
Do you know how many thefts were prevented by Mormons? Are you a Mormon? We do know they didn't prevent this one! It must have slipped through 'the cracks'.
1. I don’t mind read.
The question that is REALLY important (IMHO) is...
"How many non-Faith building stories have been KEPT from media attention by MORMONism, Inc.?"
I have never heard that from them, only from Elsie. However; I do not doubt your assertion.
Of course, fans say the Dallas Mavericks are better. They are desperately wrong, of course, but hardly worthy of serious ridicule.
(well, maybe a little)
It is simply not possible that no Mormon is decent enough to stop a crime given the chance. The few I have met were exceptionally honorable.
No; I'm afraid I do not know. However; there are several of our fellow Freepers that maintain an extensive data base of information on Mormons. Perhaps they could be of help to us.
Similarly, I have no idea how many Catholics, Floridians, or florists have prevented thefts. My money is on gun owners.
I am not a Mormon, a Catholic, a Floridian, a Mavericks fan, or a florist. Thanks for your interest.
This is also the testimony of a LOT of folks who have met a 'few' of them.
(You might need a little salt...)
ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY
1. Im Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you dont!
2. Im Superior; I have Gods true priesthood power -- you dont!
3. Im Superior; I can go in Gods secret Temple -- you cant!
4. Im Superior; Ive been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- youre just normal!
5. Im Superior; Ill have my family with me in heaven -- youll be with strangers!
6. Im Superior; Im becoming a God -- you arent!
7. Im Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours dont.
8. Im Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
9. Im Superior; I dont HAVE a creed - Ive got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. Im Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. -- You cant.
12. Im Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics --
-- Youre a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. Im Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. Im Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you dont.
18. Im Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you dont ;so you cant.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. Im Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably -- Youre on your own; when you get to wherever youre going!
21. Im Superior; Im going to hie to Kolob -- youre going to who knows where.
22. Im Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you dont.
23. Im Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple
-- You have nothing but a stupid cross.
24. Im Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)
26. I'm superior; I have the "higher law" -- everyone else "lives under the "lesser law' because I say so...(over and over).
Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
All rights liable to be abused.
Pretty interesting poster. Where might I find more information about its author?
I notice that it is footnoted "Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans".
Do you know who that is, and where I may find out more about them?
Any help is appreciated.
“I notice that it is footnoted “Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans” .
Do you know who that is, and where I may find out more about them?”
Right here; of course.
Stay tuned and/or search the archives...
I can give a list of previously active MORMON apologist that post on FR. You could ask THEM if any of the statements are untrue; but whenever I ping them to something that might interest them, they either IGNORE the ping or get REALLLY huffy about it!
We don't have a LIST of Rules like the MORMON missionaries do.
US? I didn't ask something that is impossible to know. Even the mormons couldn't answer it.
However; there are several of our fellow Freepers that maintain an extensive data base of information on Mormons
Then you are to thank them if you learned something and not ask them something no one can know. You asked the same question how many did they prevent on another mormon thread the same day about rapes.
Intimidation and control are tactics of satan - which he uses in all 'man made teachings' religions which they are all obeying satan. He fulfilled his wish where he has people bowing to him instead of Jesus.
“It is simply not possible that no Mormon is decent enough to stop a crime given the chance. The few I have met were exceptionally honorable.”
We had one run for President, and he was as duplicitous as his religion when it comes to revising his history and dealing with his Christian conservative opponents. The LDS have made thousands of changes to their holy writ, allegedly written down perfect the first time, so it’s no surprise that Mittens was always rewriting his own history too.
"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."---Joseph Knight's journal.
"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.
"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.
In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:
"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."
"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)
In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:"When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12June 15, 1879, pp. 190-91.)
Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"("A New Witness for Christ in America,"Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)
"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.
“What does it matter if the perp is LDS, Baptist, Catholic or Orthodox Jew? The story is about a burglary.”
Because if it’s a Mormon - oh boy - the anti Mormonism freepers can have a field day!!
“It is simply not possible that no Mormon is decent enough to stop a crime given the chance. The few I have met were exceptionally honorable.”
I am a Mormon and the Mormons I know are all decent, God fearing, Jesus loving, family oriented every day folk. I don’t know why we are so loathed on this site. Anyway, thank you for your input.
“Never associate inappropriately with anyone of the opposite sex (conversely, they don’t mention whether or not it is against the rules to associate inappropriately with anyone of the same sex).”
Please do not change the rules to suit your own agenda. Homosexual behavior is not tolerated. Period - and you know it.
I do. Fundies cannot tolerate anyone who dares to interpret the Scripture some other way than they do, which is to say at least 30,000 different ways for each of their sects, and hundreds of millions different ways for each one of them, since part of their dogma is personal interpretation trumps all. Therefore, the Mormons and the Catholics are despised, snake charmers, Harold Campings, Jim Joneses, the Crouches, the Bakkers, various Marjoes and the preacher cousins of Jerry Lee Lewis are revered.
Elsie’s rules in post #28 are for LDS Missionaries who are volunteers and who devote 2 years (for men) 18 months (for women). They volunteer for the love of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and to bless everyone they come in contact with. The rules are to help the Missionaries stay true and faithful. I don’t know why some people want to make fun of them.
“He fulfilled his wish where he has people bowing to him instead of Jesus.”
Jesus Christ is my Savior. He is everything to me. You have a false idea about Mormons. It’s not much fun being told that I worship satan, the father of all lies. But it’s a free country. Question: Would you say that about Jews or Catholics? Of course not, but for some reason it’s OK - even politically correct - to dump on Mormons. Whatever. I’ve heard it all. I’ve been harassed by the loudest, meanest, most obnoxious anti MormonISM people on earth. And our Missionaries are harassed and tormented during their volunteer missions. One Sister Missionary had a bucket of water dumped on her. They throw tomatoes and rotten fruit. And guess what? Our Missionaries know that this is persecution for the sake of serving our Lord and Master, Jesus Christ. So bring it on!!!!!!!!!! We rejoice and love our Savior even more.
Think about it. The guy they wrote about in the article is a thief - misdemeanor, no less - but that’s not what they are concentrating on. They just live to point out that he is a Mormon. Any Mormon is fair game. Nothing is off limits, no matter how vile.
Anyway, thank you for your comments.
You have a false idea about me - it's not the Mormons (I don't know any)but Mormonism and their man-made teachings that deceive.
And if I did know any, you betcha I show them what God's Word says and explain it to them while making them a tomato sandwich or two and not throwing it at them. Then it's up to them to 'get it' or not.
Forgot about what you think you know - his is persecution for the sake of serving our Lord and Master, Jesus Christ. So bring it on!!!!!!!!!! We rejoice and love our Savior even more. It's not the Lord you are serving, it is 'man/evil'. JESUS doesn't dwell where 'man made teachings' are. Those who are under 'it' have made their choice to NOT be with HIM/HIS WORD ALONE.
But its a free country.
And you had a free choice what to BELIEVE. And you choose 'man/evil'.
So bring it on!!!!!!!!!!
Time is short, it's coming, and remember you brought it on yourself!!!!
Scripture? If Mormonism ONLY followed God's Word why do they have 'man-made teachings' coming from 'their church' for 'their subjects' to hear and obey?
The Spirit of God, the HOLY SPIRIT, is the Teacher of His Word as it is spiritually discerned. And what 'sect' is that?
Harold Campings, Jim Joneses, the Crouches, the Bakkers, various Marjoes and the preacher cousins of Jerry Lee Lewis are revered.
You seem 'up' are snake charmers - what do they teach their followers? I know Jim Jones was into killing 'his followers' to stay with him. While Jesus gave His Life for all to be 'free'.
Evil is rampant and the results are destruction.
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to DESTRUCTION, and MANY enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to LIFE, and only a FEW find it." Matt 7:13,14
JESUS ALONE is The WAY, The TRUTH, The LIFE.
Jesus answered, I am The Way and The Truth and The Life. NO ONE comes to the Father except through Me." John 14:6
JESUS is The WORD.
"And The WORD was made flesh, and dwelt among us." John 1:14
No one comes to The Father through man-made teachings despite what 'man' teaches them. They are going to 'another'.
I'm sure that it was clever, and gave the appearance of expertise. However, as atheists they clearly have an agenda, and I would not trust their assertions about what the Bible says.
I have heard Nancy Pelosi wax poetic about the Catholic Church, and what a good Catholic she is. However; she clearly disagrees with the Church, and I would not trust her assertions about it.
I have heard Ayatollahs articulate how evil the Jewish faith and people are. Khameni clearly hates the Jews and his assertions about them are untrustworthy.
I have heard President Clinton convince my fellow Americans that Republicans want to starve children. However; Clinton does not like Republicans and cannot be trusted to offer a trustworthy description of them.
Clearly, there are many at FreeRepublic that do not approve of Mormons; that preach that Mormons are blasphemous, heretical hypocrites. Like Pelosi, they offer themselves as knowledgable experts painting an accurate picture.
You don’t know any Mormons but you say you know everything about what we believe. I find that odd. You believe everything you read on the Internet? That is Gospel to you? Oh, well; I see it would be useless to have a meaningful dialog since you already have made up your mind. Your mind is closed.
I say that Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior but you do not believe me. “Jesus Christ is Lord!” You apparently do not believe the Bible because if you did you would know that I could not say that unless the power of the Holy Ghost were helping me.
I believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost and was baptized thus - under the precious waters of baptism.
God bless you.
"As for the one Mormon running for office. Those who really believe in God will defeat him anyways. So don't worry about that, that's a temporary situation."
--The 'Rev' Al Sharpton
At LEAST you are getting it right!!
And yet you flip to personalize Christianity's LOATHING of false gospels and false prophets.
You individual MORMONs are NOT 'loathed' here; but LOVED.
Why else would ANYONE in their right mind waste their time with trying to get the FACTS about MormonISM a greater airing?
What did I change?
I merely observed a lack.
You know full well the guys high above SLC can add/change/delete anything previously written at a moments notice.
This is untrue; and can be proven:
How do members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints feel about calling the members of its various spin-off sects Latter-Day Saints, Christians, or Mormons? Or about those sects calling themselves Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? (There was an earlier campaign by LDS to have journalism style books use the word Mormon to refer only to LDS, and not RLDS, FLDS, or other LDS sects).
For a man who bragged about holding things together, Joseph Smith, Jr. doesnt appear go have done a good job of it during his lifetime. Wycam Clarks Pure Church of Christ spun off in 1831. This trend continued. There were six LDS sects spawned in the 1830s, eight in the 1840s, two in the 1850s, and seven in the 1860s.
Do those responsible for the Mormons are Christians campaign consider these denominations to be Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? Surely many of these denominations are much closer to mainstream LDS than LDS is to Christianity. Many stick to Smiths teachings and old temple endowment ceremonies.
Short Creek Community
Latter Day Church of Christ
Apostolic United Brethren
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness [sic] of Times
Church of the Lamb of God
Church of the New Covenant in Christ
Confederate Nations of Israel
Righteous Branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
School of the Prophets
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Kingdom of God
True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days
The Church of the Firstborn and the General Assembly of Heaven
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ
Order of Enoch
Zions Order, Inc.
Perfected Church of Jesus Christ of Immaculate Latter-day Saints
Church of Jesus Christ (Bullaite)
Community of Christ
Church of Jesus Christ (Toneyite)
Independent RLDS / Restoration Branches
Church of Jesus Christ Restored 1830
Church of Christ (Lion of God Ministry/Clarkite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Zions Branch)
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Church of Christ (Temple Lot) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Fettingite) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ at Halleys Bluff (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Restored) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ With the Elijah Message (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Hancock) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Burtite) (Hendrickite)
Church of Israel (Hendrickite)
Church of Christ with the Elijah Message (The Assured Way of the Lord) (Hendrickite)
The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
True Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Restored Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
Holy Church of Jesus Christ (Strangite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Drewite) (Strangite)
True Church of Jesus Christ Restored (Strangite)
Pentecostal Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Whitmerite)
Or these defunct sects:
Pure Church of Christ (Clarkite)
Independent Church (Hotonite)
Church of Christ (Boothite)
Church of Christ (Parrishite)
Church of Christ (Chubbyite)
Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, the Lambs Wife
Church of Christ (Pageite)
True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (this one was particularly curious - started by William Law, editor of The Nauvoo Expositor, just one of many sects started in opposition to plural marriage)
The Church of Zion (Godbeite)
United Order Family of Christ
Church of the Potter Christ
Church of the Firstborn (Morrisite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gibsonite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Most High
Church of the Christian Brotherhood
Church of Jesus Christ of the Children of Zion (Rigdonite) Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Primative Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Christ (Aaron Smith)
Church of the Messiah (Adamsite)
Church of Christ (Wrightite)
Church of Christ (Whitmerite)
Church of Christ (Brewsterite)
The Bride, the Lambs Wife
Congregation of Jehovahs Presbytery of Zion
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gladdenite)
Independent Latter Day Saints of Nigeria
Independent Latter Day Saints of Ghana
Apostolic Divine Church of Ghana
Are members of those LDS groups Mormons? Latter Day Saints? Christians?
Do the folks in Salt Lake City have a problem with any of those groups, who believe in the restoration of the original church by Joseph Smith, calling themselves Mormons or Saints?
Most of these divisions in the Latter-Day Saint movement occurred over the issue of polygamy or succession of the Prophet. Sects broke off when Joseph Smith was still alive, and when Brigham Young was named prophet, because they didnt believe in the practice of plural marriage either publicly, or in some cases when it was practiced in private and denied in public.
Of course, there was the great split between Rocky Mountain Saints and Prairie Saints, when LDS members couldnt agree on a successor prophet to Smith, Jr., and the church went to Utah, Missouri, Illinois, Michigan, and Pennsylvania under Brigham Young, Sidney Rigdon (senior member of the First Presidency), James Strang, Lyman Wight, Alpheus Cutler, William Smith, David Whitmer (a BOM witness), or Joseph Smith III (son of Joseph Smith, Jr.). Almost all of these individuals still has multiple sects in existence that date to an 1844 decision about who should be the next President/Prophet of the church.
The Prairie Saints split into sects over the issue of whether Smith practiced polygamy. Rocky Mountain Saints had many, many spinoff sects after the 1890 Manifesto groups that still practice plural marriage.
Thanks to ScoutMaster for all the hard work here!