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LDS seminary teacher charged with burglary, theft of prescription drugs
KSL.com ^ | June 5, 2013 | Geoff Liesek

Posted on 06/06/2013 5:20:47 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: laotzu

I do not sense the Spirit about you.
_________________________________________

I couldnt care less what you think you “sense” about me

Knock yaself out in your medium, Weegiboard religion..

sounds like Mormonism to me...feelings

My God, the LORD Jesus Christ of the Christian Bible, isnt found through the human physical senses...

The LORD Jesus Christ says to laotzu, “God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth” Johnm 4:24


201 posted on 06/09/2013 4:19:39 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie; laotzu

MORMONs ain’t my brother.
__________________________________

The Mormons from Indonesia

I thought that was interesting and puzzling

then I remembered

brother/bishop Barak Obama is a Mormon from Indonesia...

Nobody can deny hes a Mormon

and hes from Indonesia...

Mystery solved...


202 posted on 06/09/2013 4:26:47 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: editor-surveyor

This?


203 posted on 06/10/2013 4:32:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor

This?


204 posted on 06/10/2013 4:33:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Come clean on it, its the only way.


205 posted on 06/10/2013 7:04:10 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: svcw
hahaha That’s what mormons say about themselves, “they are better”.

They are definitely better than black people, because we are not ("a white and a delightsome people" 2 Nephi 30:6 1830 edition) "a pure and a delightsome people" (changed in 1840 edition of the BOM) the most correct book on earth, the same book that Joseph Smith translated from the gold plates!

Was there a mistake made with the original translating of the BOM? We all know how it was originally translated.
206 posted on 06/10/2013 7:18:45 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: ForAmerica

Apparently the lds god, likes to change his mind on a regular basis.
Just a coincidence that it seems to coincide with the US government demanding something from them.
IE polygamy
IE discrimination against blacks
IE homosexual “marriage”
IE Wonder what will be next?


207 posted on 06/10/2013 7:38:50 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: ForAmerica
Was there a mistake made with the original translating of the BOM?

HELL no!!


Here is how it was done...



"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."
---Joseph Knight's journal.


"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.
(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),
"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.

"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,
as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,
and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.

In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:

"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."


"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"
reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881
in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)

In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:
 
 "When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,
Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12
June 15, 1879,  pp. 190-91.)


Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:
 
"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"
("A New Witness for Christ in America,"
Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)


"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."
---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.




208 posted on 06/10/2013 11:15:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ForAmerica
Here is how Mormonism LIES about how it was done...


The following are the LYING images that MORMONism has produced, KNOWING that they represent something FALSE!!
 
 
   

209 posted on 06/10/2013 11:16:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

And they will get mad at us for even talking about this, their own history, so sad!


210 posted on 06/10/2013 2:39:20 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: Elsie
Here is how it was done...

That's the problem, they always tell me that all the revisions were "minor"! One revision would not be warranted if it was translated the way the Joseph Smith said it was translated.

Why does "the most correct book on earth" need to be changed?
211 posted on 06/10/2013 3:08:43 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: ForAmerica

Lucy!

You got some ‘splainin’ to do!!


212 posted on 06/10/2013 3:10:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Elsie
I bind any witchcraft you might pray against me..

The Power of Christ compels you...
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!!
(don't puke on my shoes)

213 posted on 06/10/2013 3:18:31 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu
I bind any witchcraft you might pray against me..

It never hurts to be too cautious...

214 posted on 06/10/2013 6:52:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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