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To: trebb

Jesus is not a state of my mind, He is the state of my heart.
Jesus is not my religion He is my Savior.
Jesus is not my “movement”, He is my all.

So when I say, to your statement “there we have it, I thought Christianity was about Jesus” -
it explains why we definitely have differing views on Him.


69 posted on 06/21/2013 3:31:40 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: svcw
Jesus is not a state of my mind, He is the state of my heart. Jesus is not my religion He is my Savior. Jesus is not my “movement”, He is my all. So when I say, to your statement “there we have it, I thought Christianity was about Jesus” - it explains why we definitely have differing views on Him. >

We don't have differing views on Jesus - He is the manliest and lovingest Man to ever walk the Earth. He is God who stepped out of Heaven to die at the hands of sinners that those same sinners need not perish themselves. He humbled Himself and called mere mortals "friend" and he suffered terribly in body, mind and spirit - how terrible it must have felt when He took all our sins on Himself and for the first time was cut off from the Father and cried out that He had been forsaken. We worship the same Jesus - please don't take things so personal that you keep changing my words and intent. I said Christianity was the movement. I never indicated it in any way lessened the stature of Jesus. How can anything a human does do something that reflects negatively on God? Anyone who thinks he can hurt God's status is egotistical and misinformed. God stands above all else and does not need our support or defense.

I was saved by the same Jesus as you and am part of the same "movement" of Christianity. I understand and love Him as much as anyone and do not intend to demean Him. I ask questions about religion because I've been involved with a few and most diluted the message by inundating the flocks with all sorts of extraneous stuff that at times seems to contradict the Bible. Where it doesn't contradict the Bible, it comes out as doctrinal thesis material instead of clean and simple words. It has members calling the priests "Father" despite the Bible telling us to call no earthly man "Father" because we have but one Father. It makes the act of the Lord's Supper into a deal that requires a priest in order to do a "proper remembrance". It has people praying to the saints for intercession on their behalf when we were given a direct conduit to God Himself for our prayers - "When you pray, do it something like this....Our Father, which art in heaven..."

Most of the folks who respond negatively to me aren't defending Jesus or God. They usually don't even bring up carrying the Word and Good News of the Gospels. They defend their religion. There are over 30,000 sects of Christianity and they all appear as different versions of religion that have the same core concept - "Christ is the Savior", but they all have other beliefs that are either added or subtracted for the others to make them a unique entity. Speak in tongues/handle snakes/roll in the aisles, etc., etc., etc...

God's Word in the Bible is sufficient to carry the news and bring folks to Christ - religion causes distractions - Ireland anyone?

76 posted on 06/22/2013 3:07:33 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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