Posted on 06/25/2013 11:41:40 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
Edited on 06/25/2013 7:26:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
SANTA FE, N.M. —A newspaper’s recent online design, which depicts a woman who looks like Lady of Guadalupe in a bikini, has drawn controversy from Catholics across the state.
The cartoon woman in The Santa Fe Reporter's "Summer Guide 2013" issue is wearing a yellow bikini, along with a blue cloak that covers the top of her head and nothing else. Behind the woman, there are yellow sun rays. She is sipping from a margarita glass.
The cover design has angered Catholics because of the woman's uncanny resemblance to Our Lady of Guadalupe.
“I think that's very offensive,” said local Catholic David Rodke. "(The paper) seems to be posing her as the Virgin of Guadalupe. That's blasphemous!"
Alexa Schirtzinger, the editor of The Santa Fe Reporter, declined to do an interview. However, Shirtzinger posted a blog in response to the outrage over the image.
"The intent of our Summer Guide cover design was not to insult or denigrate any religion or ethnicity, but rather to incorporate an important part of Santa Fe's culture into an image that also unites other diverse cultures that flourish in our city,” Schirtzinger wrote in the blog.
Resident Terence Lente said the picture may be in poor taste, but there’s no reason to censor it.
“I can see how this could offend many people,” Lente said. “It [snip] people off but at the same time. It’s freedom of speech.”
The Santa Fe Reporter distributes close to 20,0000 copies each week to Albuquerque, Santa Fe and parts of northern New Mexico.
And when Joseph had more kids with her, she was no longer a virgin. Besides, withholding sex from her husband would be against church teaching, unless she transcends that as well.
3 Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. - 1 Corinthians 7
Who’s to say God doesn’t have sperm? We are made in his image after all, maybe sperm included.
Scripture contradicts you.
"And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" Luke 1:43
God has no Mother.
God Incarnate does, just as Scripture teaches.
I would love to see you use Scripture to show how insulting Mary equated to insulting the Lord Jesus Christ
"For Moses said: Honor thy father and thy mother; and He that shall curse father or mother, dying let him die." Mark 7:10
Scripture is wasted on the obtuse just as St. Peter wrote.
"And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation; as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16
There is a resemblance. It can’t be denied!
If it were in Manitoba, people probably would not see it, But the symbols surrounding the woman (Full length blue veil, scalloped glowing background, the moon beneath her feet, etc) would be very obvious to people in the Southwest, who see this image all the time. Especially as a prison or gang tattoo.
Come to think of it...why is it OK to use the symbol as a gang tattoo? Would that not also be offensive to Catholic people?
And who wears a helmet and a backpack to drink beer? or PINK Cowboy hats?
Odds are that you’re a member of the 78% 2008 and 69% 2012 Jewish voting block that pulled the lever for Soetoro.
That’s pretty bad, and the gay cowboy is, like, totally gay!
BTW, our lady of Guadalupe is the patron saint for the Americas.
Here is a link to the wikipedia entry, which I did not in its entirety.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Guadalupe
I take it that you're a Mormon?
Sounds ominous. Is there supposed to be two photos in your post, I only see one.
First, there is a big difference between the use of Mother of God and mother of my Lord. Mother of God is a proper noun while mother is a common. God is Yahweh, I am who I am, the Greek for Lord in this verse is master, not LORD as in Yahweh.
Second, do you not remember when Christ on the Cross rejected His mother’s claim to Him? In a sense, transferred such mothership to John? He wanted to ensure no one would deify or worship her. She was just as human as the rest of us.
Third, you are taking that commandment out of context. The son or daughter is commanded to not curse the father or mother. I am not the son of Mary.
18“What profit is the image, that its maker should carve it,
The molded image, a teacher of lies,
That the maker of its mold should trust in it,
To make mute idols?
19 Woe to him who says to wood, ‘Awake!’
To silent stone, ‘Arise! It shall teach!’
Behold, it is overlaid with gold and silver,
Yet in it there is no breath at all.
20 “But the Lord is in His holy temple.
Let all the earth keep silence before Him.”
Habakkuk 2
well, 1. this would have been written about 30 years after the death of Joseph.
2. the only reason why you’d accept that Corinthians is holy scripture is because the church canonized it
Whatever one’s doctrine or theology, the fact remains that the “artist” who drew this, the editor that approved it, and the publisher who disseminated it are all very foolish, knowing that they are deliberately mocking a symbol that is very dear to a large segment of their population.
(Incidentally, the “Moon beneath her feet” is taken directly from the Book of Revelation, and has been a part of Catholic iconography for centuries. I interpret the “Woman” in Revelation to be Israel, which would make “The Moon Beneath her feet” symbolic of the eventual DEFEAT of islam Just My Opinion...and hope.)
"Queen of Heaven" just creeps me out, though. She may be a good example for a believer to follow (she is, after all, the only solely-human being in the Apostles' Creed to be referenced favorably--the other one who gets a reference is Pontius Pilate), but so are all the saints (whether it's an Eastern Orthodox saint like St. Tikhon Zadonsky, a Western Catholic saint like St. Francis de Sales, or a Protestant saint like Catherine Booth or John Fletcher, Vicar of Madeley).
” How do they know what Guadalupe Lady looks like in the first place?”
The image is from St. Juan Diego’s Tilma, or cloak, which is on display in the Basilica of Guadalupe in Mexico City. It’s a famous image and story.
Lol no I wasn’t born dead
Aren’t we all saints in Christ?
Point of order: The Tetragrammaton never occurs in the Greek New Testament. It is consistently rendered following Masoretic convention as kyrios, even in places where it quotes the Old Testament (Romans 9:29, for example, quotes Isaiah 1:9 and translates it with kyrios, not the Tetragrammaton.)
Right, the point being that the word “Lord” used in this verse is proper noun for master in the Greek, not Yahweh, Jehovah, Adonai, or any of the names for God.
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