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Fr. Z muses and rants (about the current stories circulating about Rome)
Fr Z's Blog (the blog formerly known as What Does The Prayer Really Say) ^ | 6/27/2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 06/28/2013 3:03:53 AM PDT by markomalley

There is an especially awful story about clergy in Rome circulating right now.

Once upon a time, I was walking under the colonnade of St. Peter’s Square with an especially well-placed curial official, nay rather, institution.

I asked him if it were true that Masons (the European style Masons, not the US style) had infiltrated the Church and the Roman Curia.

He stopped and looked around. He leaned in, lowered his voice, and said, “Yes. But they are not the ones people talk about.”

Many years ago, also in Rome, I stayed for a while at the Czech College. They were almost paranoid when it came to outsiders. Eventually, someone told me that when they did some renovations of rooms, they found listening devices planted in the walls. They had been infiltrated by seminarians that were actually working for government agencies.

Also in Rome, I lived for a couple summers at a Ukrainian Catholic residence when my own place was under renovation. Some of these old guys had survived Stalin. There was a concern that KGB plants would manage to get in.

For a long time in certain circles there was a great concern that Masons, communists and homosexuals had systematically infiltrated the Church for the purpose of eventually attaining high positions and influence and so under mine or twist the Church and her mission from within.

“But Father! But Father!”, some of you may be sputtering, “You don’t believe any of this, do you? Even though you obviously hate Vatican II, do you buy this stuff?”

I do buy it, yes.

But when I hear about scandalous stories involving Church figures, I tend to shrug. They are only the very edge of a slimy underbelly.  Sin isn’t rare.

On the other hand…

There are those who hate the Church with as much hate as we love the Church. They are organized, they have a great resources, they have a Dark Prince. Dreadful liberal publications and websites, and even the blitherings of some priests and bishops, are only shadows of the deeper agenda flickered out on the back of the cave for popular consumption by barely witting dupes.

Deeper enemies, like our own beautiful missionaries and martyrs of ages past, are willing to set aside their appetites, put on a facade, and endure for patient years for the sake of a long term plan.

Yes, I buy it. I have seen manifestations of communist, Masonic, and especially homosexual networking in the Church both in the USA and in Rome. It would be stupidly naive to think that it isn’t present. In the USA, Masonic and communist? Maybe not so much.  Elsewhere, yes.  The other thing?  Ohhhh, yes.

Those agents will probably go to Hell.  Let us remember that the gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church.

However, Our Lord did not promise that Hell would not prevail in these USA or, in the Roman Curia, in any other particular place.

When you hear awful stories, do not become discouraged.

We are nearing some kind of turning point. I think it is time to press forward HARD and with courage to renew our Holy Church’s liturgical worship, the best, clean antidote.


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1 posted on 06/28/2013 3:03:53 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

A much more simple, and I think, accurate, explanation is that as the promised harvest nears the weeds are bearing fruit.


2 posted on 06/28/2013 3:32:47 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: markomalley

Dang Masons.


3 posted on 06/28/2013 3:52:32 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: markomalley

God bless the pope as he attempts to clean out the stables.


4 posted on 06/28/2013 4:00:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: saganite

A key feature of the homosexual scandals that hasn’t gotten any play at all is the Satanic ritualization.


5 posted on 06/28/2013 4:45:14 AM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: count-your-change
A much more simple, and I think, accurate, explanation is that as the promised harvest nears the weeds are bearing fruit.

Good observation.

6 posted on 06/28/2013 5:02:25 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Travis McGee

God bless the pope as he attempts to clean out the stables.

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Pope Francis NEEDS our daily prayers.


7 posted on 06/28/2013 5:34:49 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


8 posted on 06/28/2013 5:39:22 AM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: markomalley
Michael Voris yesterday morning: ChurchMilitant.tv
In the afternoon (US): ChurchMilitant.tv

Gay prostitution, active homosexual priests and satanism, involving up to 4 bishops.

After billions spent on the homosexual child abuse scandal in the Church, are we going to tolerate homosexuality in the priesthood when it is not abusive of minors?

Stay tuned to Voris, and pray for the Church.

9 posted on 06/28/2013 6:17:17 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: dangus

BTTT!


10 posted on 06/28/2013 6:44:25 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: dangus
A key feature of the homosexual scandals that hasn’t gotten any play at all is the Satanic ritualization.

Time to reread Windswept House.

11 posted on 06/28/2013 6:57:55 AM PDT by ELS
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