Posted on 07/11/2013 1:20:45 PM PDT by dangus
Failure rates of common birth control methods:
Symptom-based fertility awareness ("modern Natural Family Planning"): 1.8%
Cervical cap: 6.7%
Combined oral contraceptive pill: 8-9%
Note: "Combined" oral contraceptive pills combine estrogen-based drugs with abortifacients. So without "undetected miscarriages" (i.e., dead babies), this rate would be higher.
Ortho-Evra patch: 8-9%
Nuva Ring: 8-9%
Diaphragm: 12-16% (depending on source)
Male Latex Condom: 15-18% (spermicide-treated, depending on source)
Coitus Interruptus: 18-22% (depending on source)
Rhythm Method: 24-25% (depending on source)
Contraceptive Sponge: 24-32% (depending on whether the woman had been previously pregnant)
Spermicide: 28% (without condom)
Please note the following:
> Condom use is no more effective than coitus interruptus.
> An 18% failure rate does NOT mean that only 18% of women who use this method will ever get pregnant. It means that it reduces pregnancies 82%. So if a women would normally get pregnant after an average of three months without using a condom, she will now get pregnant after only sixteen months.
> Even presuming failure rates are completely independent, using a male condom with a contraceptive sponge combined is still THREE times LESS effective than modern NFP. (15% * 32% is 4.8%, compared to 1.6%)
Now, I believe that you should consider "typical-use" failure rates. But a lot of people reading this are probably jumping out of their seats to deny that condoms have a 18% failure rate. But the "perfect use" failure rate is still higher than the typical-use failure rate for modern NFP, and still three times higher than perfect-use NFP. And I believe that "perfect use" is completely unrealistic: the male partner has to hold the condom on with his hand while he does a one-hand pushup over his partner. And no double dipping without showering between acts!
Also worth noting, the standard-days rhythm method, carefully used, has a failure rate LOWER than the typical-use condoms, plan B, contraceptive sponges, combined diaphragm and spermicide, Nuva Ring, or combined oral-use contraception, and even perfectly used contraceptive sponges, cervical caps, diaphragms, Plan B, or common applications of spermicide.
So why are so many people so convinced that artificial contraception is necessary to prevent overpopulation?
I believe the problem is this: NFP reminds people of the need for responsibility. But modern sexuality is all about compulsivity. What artificial contraception provides
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2002 12:50:00 AM by Brian Kopp DPM
Flushed hormones change sex of fish
Synthetic estrogen in water from sewage causes male fish to produce eggs: study
Tom Spears
The Ottawa Citizen
Saturday, January 05, 2002
Women who take birth control pills or hormone therapy are flushing enough hormones down the toilet to make male fish downstream produce eggs, a Canadian study shows.
Synthetic estrogen in the women's urine goes through sewage treatment plants without being completely broken down, and the fish absorb it, with bad effects following.
Male fish produce eggs in their testes. Female fish are stimulated by the extra hormones to produce eggs at the wrong times of year.
And there are questions, still unanswered, about whether these chemically altered fish are capable of reproducing at all.
Scientists have seen this "gender-bending" effect in fish downstream from sewage plants, but lacked proof that birth control pills are a cause.
So Karen Kidd of Fisheries and Oceans Canada started dribbling bits of the synthetic hormone from birth control pills into a 34-hectare lake in northwestern Ontario, west of Dryden, to find out. The lakes are so remote they don't even have names (this one is called Lake 260) and are perfectly suited to act as giant experiments because they are practically untouched by pollution.
Sure enough, the male lake trout, white suckers, fathead minnows and pearl dace turned up this fall with proteins that females use to manufacture egg cells, and in some cases with the eggs themselves.
"The question now is whether this feminization is affecting the population size or sustainability," she said. "Can males with eggs in their testes reproduce effectively? Can they contribute to the population?"
It will take another summer of adding chemicals, and a couple of years of counting fish afterwards, to know the full effects. But Ms. Kidd is finding an interested audience in Vancouver this weekend, where she will show her early results to a conference of fisheries scientists.
"People consume the birth control pills and it's lost from their bodies and goes into the sewage," said Peter Leavitt, a biology professor at the University of Regina. "So we get this huge population in sources like cities, dumping this very high concentration of hormones into the water bodies. And the question is: Is it having an influence?
"It seems to be mimicking some of the reproductive hormones that other organisms use, and it's basically messing up their reproductive strategies," he said. "I think it's really significant," because no one thought of human sewage as a source of this type of pollution before, he said.
"And what Karen is showing is that there are consequence of large numbers of people living in an area ... It's not so much that we're destroying their (the wildlife's) habitat. But we're actually changing the chemical environment in which they live and breathe."
Ms. Kidd says both natural and synthetic estrogen go into sewage in urine, but bacteria take longer to break down the synthetic version, which means more of it gets into the fish.
For 10 years scientists have studied chemicals that act like estrogen in fish, other wildlife, and even humans that eat tainted fish. Many of these come from pesticides or industrial waste and are never intended to be like hormones at all. But this study is unique in looking at real hormones flushed down the drain.
Ms. Kidd says both natural and synthetic estrogen go into the sewage system in urine, but bacteria take longer to break down the synthetic version, which means more of it gets into the fish.
The Lake 260 experiment uses the amount of hormone that would come from 6,000 women taking the pill, she said.
Because condoms fail 18% of the time under normal (read, reasonable) use. EACH TIME. This isn’t like the pill or rhythm methods, where if it works once for you, it’s more likely to work again. This is every single time, you place another bullet in the gun you’re playing Russian roulette with. This means that if you normally would have gotten pregnant after three months, you WILL STILL GET PREGNANT using a condom, it will just take an average of sixteen months.
Condoms are like putting iron on your...well, you know what I mean. I don’t believe it is 18% for married couples. It’s more like 90-95 percent effective. Guys just don’t like them. Tough!
Because they don’t work well?
[[citation needed]]
Just because you believe it doesn’t mean it’s true.
Taking as directed revolves around a structured life schedule, and respecting the final week. Active dating is contrary to a structured live, and often doesn’t respect the final week.
You can get a poll to say anything you want it to say. This is nonsense, IMHO.
statistics on this subject are one thing
but they represent composite results, and
they always should include the disclaimer
what works well for some may not work well for you, AND what does not work well for some may work well for you; individual experience varies and couples should always rely most on what most often works for them
They work very well. It’s a cliché that they don’t work. They don’t work if you’re a stupid kid of 18 having your first encounter with someone. (I guess, in modern day America, I should say ‘if you’re a stupid kid of 12 or 13...”)
No, believe me, I know what I’m talking about. If you can find an objective study, you’ll find that condoms are very effective. Why do you think men hate them? Because they work and are uncomfortable.
“It’s a cliché that they don’t work”
Do you have any evidence that supports your position that they ‘work well’?
This evidence indicates the opposite that condoms actually don’t work well.
Where’s your evidence?
“If you can find an objective study, you’ll find that condoms are very effective.”
One published by planned parenthood?
I’m not going to look it up for you. Have any of you guys ever opened a pack of Trojans? You couldn’t get anything through those things. If they have a hole, they fail. But they never seem to have holes...
“Men would never accept the level of risk they expect women to take from taking the pill. Does that make men jerks, or women stupid?”
Some females that aren’t even sexually active take them for control of their cycle (for medical reasons).
That’s a different situation altogether. Even for that purpose I wouldn’t want one of my loved ones taking it.
Did you know that when condom manufacturers say they are 98% effective, they expect you continually check for leakage? Condoms leak during 6.7% of all sexual encounters using a condom. That’s not 6.7% of users have experienced a leak; that’s 6.7% of condoms leak during each sexual encounter! (42% have reported condoms outright tearing during sex!)
Did you know that condom manufacturers expect you to manually hold onto the condom while having sex? 13 to 19% of condom users report slippage.
So, no, it’s not only fumbling teens who mess up with condoms... it’s most users.
“I’m not going to look it up for you.”
You claim this study is ‘non-objective’? So show me some evidence that you do claim is ‘objective’.
If you’re asking me to gage between your opinion and an actual study, the study wins everytime.
“Have any of you guys ever opened a pack of Trojans? You couldn’t get anything through those things. If they have a hole, they fail.”
It’s less than an inch of rubber. There are more reliable alternatives.
I wouldn’t either; it’s never come up with the wife, and thankfully I have only sons.
Such as? Putting some horrible device up a woman’s private parts? Putting poison into a woman’s system? Don’t make me laugh.
You’ll note that I compared rates of how they actually are used, and how they are perfectly used.
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