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To: markomalley

Yes the church has lost reverence. The chatting before mass reminds me of a movie theater in most of the Novus Ordo masses in my diocese. The children are allowed to scream, misbehave, and eat random snacks as if they were at a play group, or at the movies.

Reverence will only return when people are properly formed again - proper formation being taught the intellectual underpinnings of redemption (Faith and Reason). The complete breakdown aftermath of Vatican II replacing the sacrifice of the mass with a people’s meal has rendered it almost meaningless and the people “get” it and respond accordingly with horrendous behavior. It is the blind leading the blind, the teachers are oblivious to proper doctrine and are passing along the errors. The faith is watered down each generation, other than the very few who realize that they need to read pre vatican saints to understand their Faith.

The poor formation extended to the seminaries so we are getting bad formation and bad behavior enabled right from the teachers.

Don’t even start me on the ditties and extremely poor quaility of what passes for liturgical music. If you listen to the melody without the lyrics, one could be at a campfire or worse - including the Agnus Dei which is normally trivialized to the point of banality.

The smoke of satan HAS entered the church, and the door was opened for the secular world to get worse because the church is the spiritual gate to keep satan out.


35 posted on 07/18/2013 7:04:27 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: stonehouse01

The Saturday vigil Mass is the worst for the chattering before Mass. It’s mostly attended by elderly people, who are hard of hearing, and they all know each other and talk so loud that if you want to say some prayers before Mass begins, it’s almost impossible to concentrate.


42 posted on 07/18/2013 9:00:20 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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