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There are no more curses, JESUS SAID " IT IS FINISHED"
The Joshua Chronicles, Bible ^ | 7-21-13 | Jedediah

Posted on 07/22/2013 11:16:24 AM PDT by Jedediah

There are no curses left you see,

For they all belong to me ,

The adversary only has a lie ,

Do not believe it or you may die,

It is Faith in Spirit that is your cause ,

I Said " IT IS FINISHED " with NO pause !

It was DONE in My blood for you ,

An eternal covenant unbreakable through and through ,

I AM your hedge to every lie,

Let Me remove the speck from your eye,

You are "FORGIVEN" I AM your Seal !

This is an ETERNAL DEAL !

I AM the same every day ,

My Blood for you has made a way !

For ALL the yokes and bonds to fall \o/ ,

I "DID" IT ALL !

There is one thing left for you to do . . .

SURRENDER ALL so only I LIVE IN YOU !

The LORD rebuke(judge) you satan

Galatians 5:1-2 Amplified Bible (AMP)

5 In [this] freedom Christ has made us free [and completely liberated us]; stand fast then, and do not be hampered and held ensnared and submit again to a yoke of slavery [which you have once put off].

2 Notice, it is I, Paul, who tells you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no profit (advantage, avail) to you [for if you distrust Him, you can gain nothing from Him].

Jude verse 9

9But when [even] the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, judicially argued (disputed) about the body of Moses, he dared not [presume to] bring an abusive condemnation against him, but [simply] said, The Lord rebuke you!

9 When Mikha’el, one of the ruling angels, took issue with the Adversary, arguing over the body of Moshe, he did not dare bring against him an insulting charge, but said, “May Adonai rebuke you.”


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1 posted on 07/22/2013 11:16:24 AM PDT by Jedediah
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To: Jedediah

A covenant is a two-way street. Just saying . . .


2 posted on 07/22/2013 11:22:55 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Jedediah
Tetelestai :

The last words spoken by the dying Christ in St. John's Gospel are simply: tetelestai, or in Latin, consummatum est. 'It is finished' or 'it is fulfilled'. Did Jesus mutter these words on the cross as his life slipped away in a tone of resigned defeat? Or were they regretfully sighed like one obliged to undertake a painful but necessary task? Did Jesus utter 'it is finished' in exhausted relief that he had endured to the end? Or was it instead a defiant cry of victory?

3 posted on 07/22/2013 11:30:56 AM PDT by Tugo (Never Submit!)
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To: Tugo

My humble opinion? It was victorious. Not likely a shout, but not in defeat, as he had accomplished what His Fsther had sent Him to do.


4 posted on 07/22/2013 11:34:55 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: Tugo
I thought the last words spoken by Jesus were;

"Father, into your hands I commend my spirit."

The King James version of the Bible states this:

"And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into your hands I commend my spirit: and having said this, he gave up the spirit."

Didn't "It is finished" come before this?

5 posted on 07/22/2013 11:51:32 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: Hoodat
The Old Covenant was two-way.

The New Covenant is one-way.

6 posted on 07/22/2013 12:03:05 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

Uh, no. A covenant is a covenant is a covenant is a covenant. By definition, it is an agreement between two parties. It’ a two-way street.


7 posted on 07/22/2013 12:37:01 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"It is finished" only appears in John. It's worth noting that there are two more chapters that follow where Jesus once again offers testimony. So I wouldn't put much stock in the doctrine that Jesus' job is over. It was just beginning.

Many place all importance on the fact that Christ died for us. After reading the next two chapters of John, it is clear that He now lives for us. Salvation is the starting line - not the finish line.

8 posted on 07/22/2013 12:42:54 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Tugo

The significance is that the final words of the high priest doing the lamb sacrifice on the Passover for the sins of the nation is “it is finished”. It signified the completion of the prophecy of Passover by the Lamb of God. Priest, and King. He uttered those words at the exact same time that the High Priest would have uttered them. But then, if he was the Mashiach, he is the High Priest.

VERY significant.


9 posted on 07/22/2013 1:21:04 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Hoodat

Http://www.gotquestions.org/abrahamic-covenant.htm


10 posted on 07/22/2013 1:23:32 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: what's up

The Messiah said, “I did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it.” And also “not one jot or tittle shall pass away from the law”

There are more commandments in the “New” Testament than the “Old” Testament.

We are not freed from the Law, but the consequences of the Law. BIG DIFFERENCE!


11 posted on 07/22/2013 1:24:04 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Jedediah

The parable of the men of the street invited to the wedding comes to mind. Those who were found by the grooms father to not be wearing wedding apparel are thrown outside.

One way street = street clothes
Two way street = A wedding dress cleansed by the blood of the Lamb.

Fire Escape Churcheanity is street cloths, a life lived under conviction and repentance is wedding clothes.


12 posted on 07/22/2013 1:27:44 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: haffast
Your link doesn't work. Try this: http://www.gotquestions.org/abrahamic-covenant.html

And here's my response to you:

cov·e·nant [kuhv-uh-nuhnt]

n.

an agreement, usually formal, between two or more persons to do or not do something specified.

13 posted on 07/22/2013 1:29:43 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: haffast

On epad in doctors office and all thumbs sorry

Http://www.gotquestions.org/abrahamic-covenant.html


14 posted on 07/22/2013 1:32:36 PM PDT by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: Jedediah

bkmk


15 posted on 07/22/2013 2:02:46 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Hoodat; what's up
Uh, no. A covenant is a covenant is a covenant is a covenant. By definition, it is an agreement between two parties. It’ a two-way street.

One of the cases where the English translation misses the meaning. The Greek word διαθηκη (diatheke)that is translated as "covenant" ... is an expression of the fact that the covenant of God does not have the character of a contract between two parties, but rather that of a one-sided grant.

Linky Thing: covenant

16 posted on 07/22/2013 2:15:50 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: tx_eggman

In that case, everyone gets to spend eternity with Christ - no conditions. It’s a one-sided grant, right?


17 posted on 07/22/2013 2:25:54 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Hoodat
In that case, everyone gets to spend eternity with Christ - no conditions. It’s a one-sided grant, right?

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Ephesian 2:8-10

Not everyone .. but for those that receive the gift ... yes, God does it all.

18 posted on 07/22/2013 3:07:14 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: tx_eggman

So there are conditions.


19 posted on 07/22/2013 5:20:18 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: tx_eggman

That rings true. I like that.


20 posted on 07/22/2013 5:37:14 PM PDT by abigail2
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To: American in Israel
The Messiah said, “I did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it.” And also “not one jot or tittle shall pass away from the law”

Correct. Jesus is the only one who can fulfill the law.

If we continue to try to do it in ourselves(which is what the Galatians did and Paul reprimanded them for it) we go back to our doomed state because we are again inviting the curse.

Only by the power of the Holy Spirit can we fulfill the law of love. Because that's Jesus doing it inside of us.

21 posted on 07/22/2013 7:14:27 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Hoodat
No conditions.

God gives faith. We cannot drum it up.

If you believe it's because He's given that to you.

22 posted on 07/22/2013 7:15:38 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

And if I don’t believe, I still get it, right? You said no conditions.


23 posted on 07/22/2013 7:40:02 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Jedediah
Christ was ‘quoting’ Psalms 22 ...

Psalms 22:31 They shall come, and shall declare His righteousness unto a People that shall be born,

That He hath done this. = It is finished. John 19:30

Psalms 1:1 My GOD, my GOD, why hast thou forsaken me?

GOD did not forsake Christ, Christ was teaching even to us in these days while upon that cross. David wrote this hundreds of years before the Crucifixion.

24 posted on 07/22/2013 7:54:15 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Hoodat
No, I said no action on the part of one party.

God gives it all...including faith.

25 posted on 07/22/2013 11:28:22 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Hoodat

And I never said everyone is part of the covenant...only those to whom God includes by providing his gift...which is faith.


26 posted on 07/22/2013 11:29:46 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up
...only those to whom God includes by providing his gift...which is faith.

So there's a condition.

btw, faith requires action.

27 posted on 07/23/2013 2:48:21 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Hoodat
So there are conditions.

You go ahead and keep earning yours, mine was free.

28 posted on 07/23/2013 5:34:40 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: tx_eggman
Who said anything about earning it? There is nothing we could ever do to earn the gift of Christ. Nothing. Ever.
29 posted on 07/23/2013 5:59:07 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Jedediah

Matthew 7
21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

John 6
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.


God reads the hearts, he does not read what some one does in front of people as in do not do your alms or pray before men.

It is the things we do when no one is around except who we are not trying to impress.

Verses 21,22 and 23 are obviously referring to people who are teaching every one else.

God sees the true hearts of these people just the same as he sees the hearts of those like the woman caught in adultery.

Jesus makes it plain when talking to the scribes and Pharisees, religious leaders, they were so clean on the out side, they did not smoke or drink and would not say the word if they had a mouthful, but they did not really believe.


30 posted on 07/23/2013 6:44:23 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Hoodat

In that case, everyone gets to spend eternity with Christ - no conditions. It’s a one-sided grant, right?


Wrong, only the believers, and God knows who they are.


31 posted on 07/23/2013 6:49:11 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf

So then it’s conditional.


32 posted on 07/23/2013 6:54:29 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Jedediah

“It is finished.” was what Christ said about his life as he died on the Cross.


33 posted on 07/23/2013 6:54:44 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jedediah

God the Father can still prnounce events. What is your point here? Are you putting limits on God?

Trying to paint a rosy picture?

Saying that no people go to hell? Saying that there is no hell?


34 posted on 07/23/2013 6:56:28 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Hoodat

And God sets the boundaries for HIS conditions.


35 posted on 07/23/2013 6:59:01 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Absolutely. God sets the rules. God does the saving. I find it odd how much focus many Christians give to the 'getting saved' part that they lose sight of the overall theme of Jesus' ministry - the kingdom.

But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

Matthew 6:33

36 posted on 07/23/2013 7:12:30 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Hoodat

So then it’s conditional.


I guess you have a valid point, although i am hard put to explain it the way it is to me, but on this subject the only thing i have any idea of is my own experience.

If some one had of told me to believe in Jesus and i would be saved, that would have been a condition.

But it did not happen that way, i started reading the Bible to prove my theory that Jesus was just a hippie of his day based on some preaching i had heard, pictures, the Jesus people back in the sixties, etc.

I was determined not to believe but could not help it. so although there is a condition of the heart, what ever the heart is, my belief is unconditional come Heaven or hell.

For any one to say to them selves or to some one else,

( well i think i will start believing in Jesus so that i will be saved is ridicules).

But i will admit you have a point.


37 posted on 07/23/2013 9:00:40 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Hoodat
Well, you seemed to take issue with the original poster who said surrender on the part of man was involved so I'm not sure what you're after.
38 posted on 07/23/2013 11:38:52 AM PDT by what's up
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