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To: WXRGina
what else can I say to those who do not believe the Word of God is IT, and instead worship man-made, unscriptural "traditions" and dead people? Nothing, that's what I can say--NOTHING.

Like Luther's man-made tradition of "The Bible Alone"?

And why do Protestants, 1/4 of Christians, use Luther's Bible, rather than the true Bible?

Yes, it's difficult for Protestants to see the simple contradictions in their man-made traditions.

19 posted on 07/26/2013 8:58:24 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
The 'true' Bible? You mean the one with the Apocrypha? Those books that the Tanakh (Jewish Bible) does not include? Since the Talmud (at Bava Basra 14b-15a, Rashi to Megillah 3a, 14a) states that the books of the Tanakh were compiled by the "Men of the Great Assembly" (450 BC) and did not include the Apocrypha, these books did not form any part of the Scriptures of Jesus' day.

Since these books were not part of the Scriptures of Jesus day and He is not recorded as referencing any of them in His Words, why did the Roman church decide to then add these books to the Bible? Doesn't the Book of Revelation admonish the addition of or subtraction of any of the words contained?

You talk of 'man-made traditions'. How about the infallibility of the Pope? How did that work with Pope Stephen VI (896–897) or Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife. How about Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy and held homosexual orgies in the Lateran palace? What about Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303) or Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured? How about Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who sired at least seven children with an uncertain number of women? How about the Medici popes, Pope Leo X (1513–1521) and Pope Clement VII (1523–1534)?

Is it any wonder that Father Luther wanted reformation? With 'infallible' Popes like those noted above, how can one believe that such a doctrine is NOT man made?

Is God infallible? Of course! The Holy Spirit will guide the church universal however, those who will not submit to the leading of the Holy Spirit will falter! The RC church is no more or no less capable of faltering than any other church because it is a man made organization susceptible to all the lies that the Deciever can throw at its leaders. THIS is why we ALL must yield to the Bible and the leading of the Holy Spirit. In ALL things, including what you may feel is the Holy Spirit, test it to scripture, NOT to the traditions of man!

25 posted on 07/26/2013 10:42:14 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; WXRGina
Like Luther's man-made tradition of "The Bible Alone"? And why do Protestants, 1/4 of Christians, use Luther's Bible, rather than the true Bible? Yes, it's difficult for Protestants to see the simple contradictions in their man-made traditions.

Are you trying that again? What do you mean by "Luther's Bible"? Martin Luther's German translation of the Bible omitted NONE of the books that Catholics have in their Catholic Bible. When are FRoman Catholics gonna remember that? Here's the link, once again http://tquid.sharpens.org/Luther_%20canon.htm#a2

And as for sola Scriptura - which is NOT "The Bible alone" - Luther taught the same thing the early church fathers did which was the same thing the Apostles did which was the same thing Jesus did. Holy Scripture - because it is Divinely-inspired (God breathed) stands apart from ALL other writings as THE rule of the Christian faith. If a doctrine called essential to the faith cannot be backed up by Scripture, it doesn't belong in the rule of faith. It is really no more complicated than that. What it doesn't mean is that Christians can ONLY read the Bible to learn about the faith at the exclusion of all other writings.

For someone who bemoans ignorance, I'd expect a better understanding of these basic facts - they've certainly been mentioned enough times.

30 posted on 07/26/2013 11:50:45 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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