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To: mitch5501
No. Christ built a Church and gave it authority to teach and preach. Peter was quite clear that there are those who, reading scripture, twist its interpretation to their own destruction. The eunuch clearly needed someone to explain scripture to him.

If scripture was self interpreting, or if the Holy Spirit correctly guides each individual believer to understand the correct interpretation of scripture, we wouldn't have tens of thousands of competing christian sects, each contradicting the other.

No, Yopios simply doesn't work; sola scriptura ain't scriptural.

151 posted on 07/30/2013 6:43:20 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
So the debate is actually about who's the interpretation is rather than what the interpretation is?
152 posted on 07/30/2013 6:54:50 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
You said "sola scriptura ain't scriptural."

. 2Tim 3:16,17 16 "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work."

153 posted on 07/30/2013 6:56:28 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
Each contradicting each other? Document that. Get busy. Prove it. Or drop that line of debate. I'm not kidding.

Christ built a church you say? Define that. Is it only found in Rome (under Romanist authority)?

There were no Romanists in the beginning. The story lines pretending that was factual are a pack of lies, hence the need for "development" or the theory of "unpacking".

As far as singular papacy goes...that took many centuries to "unpack". In 1054 the final press to enact that "development" left the rest of the church not knowing quite how to respond...

Which would leave any honest man, if supporting that idea (of singular "papacy") by default needing also to maintain a position which goes far beyond merely suggesting that ALL of "the church" got it wrong on that score, until the Latin church all on their lonesome discovered that not only should there be a singular personage over all, and a singular portion of the church over and above all others --- but that they themselves should be it!

Talk about Yopios and point fingers at everyone else all you wish, but go back and correct the various Romanist "Yopios" and then we can talk. Until then --- unless there be some personal testimony which may be shared, then I won't hear it, for it is not "the true church" which is talking, but something else instead...

174 posted on 07/31/2013 6:20:16 AM PDT by BlueDragon (if wishes were fishes it would be a stinky world)
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