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To: D-fendr

“The Church teaching on original sin is quite different than you are condemned to hell for the sins Adam committed.”


The RCC baptize children in order to remove the effects of original sin, without which there are dire consequences for the child if he should die without it. The difference is that we do not hold that baptism is the method by which grace is given, or that God can be thwarted in His decision to save a soul. We hold that it is God who gives grace freely, and only on those whom He will, thus infallibly bringing them to repentance. In the case of the reprobate, they are indeed under the curse that sprung from Adam’s sin, and so, being wicked from the very beginning, God ordains their life, not through force, but through providence and permission, to fulfill His will. Though they themselves fulfill their own will, not knowing that God so arranged it that they were really doing what God “determined before to be done.”

Act 4:27-28 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, (28) For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.


27 posted on 08/05/2013 1:25:10 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So, you teach that you’re condemned by the sins Adam committed, no matter what, right?

Unless you are born lucky of course.

Are there any Calvinists who weren’t born lucky?


29 posted on 08/05/2013 1:34:24 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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