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To: D-fendr

“No, it is an accurate description of Calvinist double predestination. And it portrays a whimsical god more similar to those of the pagans than to Christ and the Most Holy Trinity.”


Your allegedly “accurate” description has no fear of God, and ignores the warning of Paul, making you a judge of God. If I were you, take the advice of noble Augustine who said:

“What then did the Lord answer to such murmurers? Murmur not among yourselves. As if He said, I know why you are not hungry, and do not understand nor seek after this bread. Murmur not among yourselves: no man can come unto me, except the Father that sent me draw him. Noble excellence of grace! No man comes unless drawn. There is whom He draws, and there is whom He draws not; why He draws one and draws not another, do not desire to judge, if you desire not to err.” (Augustine, Tractate 26)


36 posted on 08/05/2013 2:07:49 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; D-fendr

He’s not being a judge of God—he’s (correctly) judging calvinism—a cult.


37 posted on 08/05/2013 2:21:52 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Your allegedly “accurate” description has no fear of God, and ignores the warning of Paul, making you a judge of God.

Horse hockey. One need not 'judge God' to see that Calvinism has constructed a capricious pagan version. Nor does fear of God entail belief in the random bolts from Thor translated into born doomed or saved, elect/reprobate.

A key difference in the pagan gods and the God of Abraham was covenant and a shared concept of justice and mercy. Calvinism goes backwards.

If I were you, take the advice of noble Augustine who said:

Augustine said it so you believe it? Arguing from authority now are you?

40 posted on 08/05/2013 7:06:46 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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