“Your theology makes this whole discussion nonsensical, purposeless.”
But notice how you subtly changed the goal post. You said that my answers were inconsistent within my own theology. You said, ‘you have not given a reason that conforms to your theology.” So, all I have to do is give an answer consistent with my theology, right? (Which I’ve been doing all along, actually.) Can you tell me how I failed at that? And I mean, in detail. Don’t just say “it’s nonsensical!”, or give one random sentence ignoring everything I said. If God who, through Paul, earlier said “Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?”, and then, a few verses later, makes it clear that He wants the elect to understand something, and to show forth His justice on the reprobate... then how can you accuse me of being “nonsensical” when I merely repeated what the scripture said? I’d consider it the most consistent answer I could give. If God does not think it is nonsensical to show the elect something, to teach them, and to show forth His justice and mercy, His opinion should trump yours, right?
Now, that you find it nonsensical, from my “point of view,” which you are claiming to try to argue from, is the same as saying that the scripture is nonsensical. So, unless I am somehow wrong, why should I regard your opinion about it being nonsensical? From my theological standpoint, all I have to do is conclude that the “carnal mind” cannot comprehend the truths of scripture. Pretty simple to conclude, eh? So, I actually like it when you want me to argue from my own theology.
Now, if you want to drop all this and start saying that this theology, in general, is wrong. Well, then go back to that verse in John 6 and tell me what it means. Can you do that?
You have failed at that as to how I defined it: in regards to salvation. You've given reasons, but none that has any purpose or meaning or significance in regard to salvation.
It's like you've given some nice ideas for the arrangement of the Titanic deck chairs, but..
LOL! Demanding someone interpret a verse when you couldn't do the same?
Hebrews 6:4-6. I dare ya.