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Each time the universe doubles in size, the perception of time halves as we project that time back toward the beginning of the universe. The rate of doubling, that is the fractional rate of change, is very rapid at the beginning and decreases with time simply because as the universe gets larger and larger, even though the actual expansion rate is approximately constant, it takes longer and longer for the overall size to double. Because of this, the earliest of the six days have most of the15 billion years sequestered with them.

I can never really figure out why time perception slows with each doubling I would think it would be the opposite because the size has increased it would seem like it's longer.

1 posted on 08/05/2013 6:15:40 PM PDT by wmfights
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I thought this was pretty interesting. Any thoughts?


2 posted on 08/05/2013 6:16:50 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: wmfights

Great stuff.


4 posted on 08/05/2013 6:20:08 PM PDT by Shark24
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Time will pass slower in denser environments. Thus six days and 15 billion years can be viewed equivalently.

I’m a big fan of Gerald Schroeder.


5 posted on 08/05/2013 6:31:02 PM PDT by onedoug
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Genesis is literal. There is no poetry like Revelation. A day is a day. If your human intellect must try to comprehend the math, then realize that sin broke the world and reshaped everything. What was the speed of light before sin corrupted existence? You can not look back at time and apply today’s knowledge like our reality has always been relevant. Before sin entered the world, we have no way of comprehending what that may have been like.


6 posted on 08/05/2013 6:34:23 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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I read Hawking’s Brief History of Time and all I got from it was that time was hard to measure in the few moments after creation.

Since noone was standing there with a stop watch, I knew that already.


13 posted on 08/05/2013 6:58:19 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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I am, among other things, a scientist and I believe the universe was created in 6 literal days, starting with “light.” I am not at all embarrassed by saying that.

Too many people have given up literal belief in God’s word because of the flimsiest of pseudo-science.

They are afraid they will appear backward, so they punish themselves, the opposite of Galileo’s persecution!

More people should read Gerald Schroeder. He can give them some clarity, leading to courage and a realization that science does not rule out anything important in God’s word, but in fact often supports it.

A leap of faith is still needed in this life, but it is not the naive leap the fearful think it is. Faith is both less and more than their unexamined and casual assumptions about it.


15 posted on 08/05/2013 7:02:55 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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A problem I’m having with the “10,000 year old Earth” theory is that 10,000 years is 100 hundred-year lifespans back to back. As I gain perspective on what a century is, I realize 10,000 years really isn’t very long, and the world & universe we look at doesn’t fit in that box.


33 posted on 08/05/2013 7:57:44 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: wmfights

Brilliant. This solidifies my thoughts on Einstein’s relativity and the relation to the 6 days.

I wish I could find a pastor that I disagreed with on the creation of the world in 6 days and apologize (I was a lot younger and less wiser then) to him. He would have loved this article.


38 posted on 08/05/2013 8:25:29 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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And how does it just so happen that the God that created this universe is a holy God without sin? Perfect in every way?

How did we get that fortunate?

Could it just as easily have been a god of evil?

That’s what I wonder.


41 posted on 08/05/2013 9:16:47 PM PDT by jodyel
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Drivel would be a polite word.


51 posted on 08/06/2013 7:00:54 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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Bmfl


66 posted on 08/06/2013 9:20:48 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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Dr. Schroeder is a "concordist," that is, he seeks to make modern scientific theories conflate with the text of Genesis. From this he posits that the nachash (serpent) was a soulless (but speaking) sub-human and that all the billions of years of cosmic evolution occurred during the Six Days of Creation after which the Biblical chronology is quite literal.

Of course this is a perfectly legitimate position but it suffers from the fact that it is an artificial conglomeration of mutually antagonistic narratives. No scientist that I am aware of has ever agreed to accept the Biblical chronology if all scientific theories were placed into the "Six Days," nor do any of them grant the historical reality of the Flood, the Dispersion, the genealogies, etc.

Schroeder's conglomeration is like (as pointed out on another thread) mixing Calvinism with Pentecostalism or something.

And as Forrest Gump said, that's all I have to say on this topic.

72 posted on 08/06/2013 12:36:20 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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wmfights,

Thanks for this OP... I have for a very long time been fond of the idea that time is not constant, and in fact follows the same rate of decay as everything else - This Schroeder guy fits hand and glove with that assumption. What that does to everything is exceptional and profound. Nearly everything from the calculation of work, to the assembly of mass, to the calculations of the expansion rate of the universe. Almost anything we have done in science relies upon time being constant in some way or another.

In addition to the introduction of entropy at the moment of sin, one must also point out the physical ramifications thereof - the sudden growth of weeds, the difficulty of harvest - something changed then that was profound and immediate - Almost an IF/THEN equation which did not alter man, or only man... But rather, the whole environment... perhaps reality itself...

One then is left with the suggestion that we cannot possibly perceive the whole of the truth from within the fishbowl, because everything we can perceive or be made aware of is altered from it’s perfection. What is a lion but that it has tooth and claw? Powerful, and made to kill, but perhaps the lion, in it’s perfection is not that at all. How can one conceive what a lion might be without them? It’s very nature depends thereon.


77 posted on 08/06/2013 3:55:52 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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http://www.geraldschroeder.com/AgeUniverse.aspx

Boils down to “it’s a matter of perspective.” Right?

But, “whose” perspective.

Anything outside space and time as opposed to anything inside space and time...of course, this makes sense and something I’ve always inherently known but have never seen explained.

Thanks for this!


92 posted on 08/06/2013 5:20:37 PM PDT by jodyel
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This article is very interesting but in my mind it is impossible to measure. I think Christians have a harder time believing in a real Adam and Eve then they do in believing the world was created in six days.


95 posted on 08/06/2013 6:01:37 PM PDT by HarleyD
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Hm. We know the age of humans because we know what a newborn human looks like.

How can we know the age of the universe if we’ve never seen a newborn universe?


122 posted on 08/09/2013 9:43:35 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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If I was a liberal/socialist/marxist/democrat, history and the age of the universe begins when I wake up in the morning.

Don't believe me regarding democRATs et. al? Just ask one what they had for breakfast yesterday morning, and they won't be able to tell you.

5.56mm

129 posted on 08/30/2013 8:31:51 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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