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To: FourtySeven
This is why the Church exists, to continue to offer to the world Christ, on Earth, CHRIST, as a physical (albeit mystical) Body, His CHURCH

I’ve said before and I’ll say again: these “debates” only get one so far. You’ll never find the “proof” of Catholicism here, not ultimately, not completely. That complete proof rests in your own experience, your experience founded in and guided by an objective , unbiased heart.

It’s truly the most authentic form of “independence”. It’s independence, it’s FREEDOM, from EVERYTHING *OF* this world, every influence, every prejudgement, every bias, everything. It’s the most authentic “personal relationship with Jesus”.

You will come to this knowledge not because of what the priest says, or the Pope, or any apologetic work or what your friends say (or don’t say) or what ANYONE ELSE does or says, but you will because of your OWN EXPERIENCE.

That is really a good sales pitch you got goin' there...However, it's full of holes...

Jesus Christ is NOT on Earth...He is in heaven...Jesus is the Head, not the Body...We Christians are the Body...And it is not a physical Body...It's a spiritual Body...

Now if we dump all of that biblical and spiritual knowledge we have and come to your religion with an empty head as you suggest, maybe you can brainwash some of us...

Christians do not look for an 'experience'...And while the experience in one of your religious abodes IS an experience, what with the religious looking priests, the murals, stained glass, gold dishes, richly embroidered curtains, the rituals, the incense; that is NOT what Jesus called sinners to experience...

And what independence??? Your religion is a house of bondage...You guys don't even know if you'll end up in heaven, until you get to the White Throne Judgment which is a place where no Christian will ever set foot...

A personal relationship with Jesus??? You guys aren't allowed to have a personal relationship with Jesus...Eating a wafer is not a personal relationship with Jesus...

We Christians have a personal relationship with Jesus thru the Holy Spirit who indwells each and every Christian...The Holy Spirit lives inside of us, 24/7, without eating a wafer...

You guys are not allowed that 'experience', the real experience..Only your clergy are allowed (according to your religion) to be indwelt with the Holy Spirit...

We Christians know we are saved...Our home in heaven is secured...What person in his right mind would trade any of that for what you (don't) offer???

197 posted on 09/06/2013 12:29:23 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Jesus is “in heaven?” Is he there physically as well as spiritually?


205 posted on 09/06/2013 11:58:51 AM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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