Posted on 09/06/2013 11:32:01 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan said Thursday that one of the biggest problems facing the Roman Catholic Church is the number of people who identify as former Catholics, including many who left because of the 'sinful' behavior of clergy and other Church members.
Dolan, the former Milwaukee archbishop, made the comments during his first appearance in the city since the archdiocese released the personnel files of 42 priests with substantiated allegations of child sexual abuse against them in July.
Dolan didn't explicitly mention abuse, but he acknowledged that some Catholics who left the church because "they have been shocked, saddened and nauseated by the sinful behavior" of some of its members. He said Catholics should not hide from that.
"It's not a bad idea to fess up to the sinful side of the Church," Dolan said.
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No, a Christian.
That is NOT what James 2:17 says. James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. The Greek word used there is nekros which means dead. Faith without action is indeed dead just as love without action is dead. Abraham’s faith was exhibited by his actions but it was indeed his faith that saved him. That might seem like a small distinction to those who don’t understand but it’s really monumental.
Yes, the difference in being able to boast or giving ALL the Glory to the Savior.
Jesus IS the Savior, not the enabler.
OSAS is not true in my opinion.
Faith alone doesn’t cut it. We have to do our part too.
Whoa. “Justified” is one thing, “salvation” is another.
John 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
John 3:15-16 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
John 6:29b ..., This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
John 11:25-27 ..., I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: [26b] ... Believest thou this?
John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
The Greek word translated “believe” is “pisteuo.”
pisteuo, Greek 4100, Strong’s pisteuo, pist-yoo’-o; from Greek 4102 (pistis); to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), i.e. credit, by implication to entrust (especially one’s spiritual well-being to Christ) :- believe (-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with.
For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, 6 just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works:
7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven,
and whose sins are covered;
8 blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.”
The Promise Realized Through Faith
13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void. 15 For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression.
16 That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring—not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, 17 as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”—in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist. 18 In hope he believed against hope, that he should become the father of many nations, as he had been told, “So shall your offspring be.” 19 He did not weaken in faith when he considered his own body, which was as good as dead (since he was about a hundred years old), or when he considered the barrenness[c] of Sarah’s womb. 20 No unbelief made him waver concerning the promise of God, but he grew strong in his faith as he gave glory to God, 21 fully convinced that God was able to do what he had promised. 22 That is why his faith was “counted to him as righteousness.” 23 But the words “it was counted to him” were not written for his sake alone, 24 but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, 25 who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification.
Won't be any Christians at that Judgment...
That is precisely why St. Paul teaches that there is actually something greater than faith and that thing is love. "There are three things.......faith, hope and love and the greatest of these is love.
That's crazy talk...There's nothing greater than faith...Hope and love without faith is a matter of the flesh and will get you nowhere but hell...
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, hope and love; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Is that in the Douay-Rheims bible or something???
You do not get saved by love and hope...That stuff is planted inside you AFTER you have been saved...It comes from the Holy Spirit who lives within the newly saved Christians...
Not a real strong Catholic were you??? you leave the religion that Christ founded, assures your salvation, is infallible, because you don't like the fact that another bad Catholic wasn't kicked out.............O.K. I guess. The Church is not hypocritical.....some of its' members may be, but not the church......remember the selling of indulgences....some members did it, the church did not.....remember the horrible child molestation cases......the church didn't do it, sinners within the church did......grow up.
that would be unbiblical and the Catholic church is infallible in matters of faith and morals!
rush out and get yourself a bible right away.....read where He said things like if this is too tough for you, go elsewhere, give away your wealth and follow me, get behind me.....etc.
no,they are describing anyone who claims to be a Christian who is not a Catholic.....all of them
that would certainly be enough for me to pass judgement on the two thousand year old Church that Jesus founded.....Darn those Nuns, and why didn't my parents do anything about it when I told them the stories......so sad.......no, actually PATHETIC. time to get out of grade school and be an adult.
If you followed that exchange, it isn’t really me that needs the info, it was the other guy.
You're going to be in for a rude surprise. How do you explain the fact that those on Christ's right are saved, if you think no non-Christians are saved?
Biden? dittos, Kerry? Jerry Brown? many of the most prominent Catholic leaders in America? Leaders in the party that owns the Catholic vote?
The Kennedys? They are Golden, many Catholics keep their pictures as a shrine.
Here is the Catholic church honoring this hero of abortion and leftism upon his death, after a half century of his shaping America as our leading Catholic figure.
Abuse is abuse is abuse. And,...The abused person should just “get over it”?
Well...Jesus has something to say about children and millstones.
I know only **one** person who is truly a faithful and practicing Catholic. A very sweet man whom I respect and admire. He is a friend and did not attend a Catholic school.
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