Posted on 09/09/2013 1:28:52 PM PDT by NYer
From the Church of England website on Baptism:
What is baptism?
In baptism, you as parents are: thanking God for his gift of life, making a decision to start your child on the journey of faith and asking for the Church’s support.
For your child, baptism marks the start of a journey of faith, which involves turning away from all that is evil, turning towards Christ and becoming a member of the local and worldwide Christian family.
The Church of England has two authorized Baptism services. One is taken from the 1662 Book of Common Prayer and is in 17th century English.
Most baptisms use a service in contemporary English, taken from Common Worship (2000).
http://www.churchofengland.org/media/1190836/holy%20baptism.pdf
I would ask that the biological father also be present.
That would really blow the top off.
We have a winner.
This is because baptism of an infant or child presupposes that the parents will raise him in the Catholic faith. The godparent(s) must be Catholic, too.
Otherwise it's a hollow, or even a hypocritical gesture. Who makes the Baptismal promises on behalf of the child? What do they mean by it--- if not that they are (or are willing to be) "conformed to Christ" in their faith and morals?
In this case, the lesbian couple went, not to the Catholic Church, but to the Church of England, and I'm in no position to say what they mean by their Baptismal promises.
Tsk ... you're being much too rational. The 'sperm donor' is a minor technicality for these narcissists, who think only of "their" desires being fulfilled. From the getgo, Alfie's pediatrician will begin to ask probing questions like, "Is there a history of ....... in the family? That question will perplex and follow Alfie, all the days of his life. In about 20 years when "Alfie" discovers Ancestry.com, he will demand to know about his paternal father is in order to trace his true ancestors.
EVERY child has a mother and father. It is disingenuous and selfish to deny ANY child his or her rights to that information.
See my post #25.
I think King Solomon of Israel already thought of that one.
If I were this vicar, I would just walk away. Just walk away and never look back.
Leni
The Brits are talking about having their NHS fund artifical reproduction with 3 genetic parents: the father (provides sperm), mother #1 (provides an oocyte with mitochondrial DNA), and mother #2 (provides haploid nuclear DNA to be inserted into the oocyte).
The purpose of this is supposedly to enable mother #2, if she carries a mitochondrial disease, to reproduce and have "her" genetic child by putting her genetic code into another woman's ovum.
I say "supposedly," because the whole push behind this kind of reproductive interference, is to eventually develop fully depersonalized human laboratory reproduction, long dreamed of by people who really, really don't like procreative sexuality.
I think you are quite right. This is why I believe this is such an important document:
Apparently one of the ‘partners’ was impregnated by tongue.
I love that little touch: “Rev. Gebauer SAT THERE and told us...”
I mean, can you IMAGINE??? They allow crazy men like him to walk in the STREETS???
In the 21st century, Reality was politicized.
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