Theology Adrift: The Early Church Fathers and Their Views of Eschatology

Bible.Org ^ | March 10, 2012 | Matthew Allen

[imardmd1]

This article pinpoints the event on the historical time line in which the "sacral society" concept quashed the Apostolic New Testament doctrinal view of eschatology for almost two thousand years, due to the many documented errors of the fallible early "church father" theologians. That effect has been partially offset by the effective reintroduction of premillennium doctrine since the mid-1800s and its incorporation in evangelical commentaries and literature.

[IronJack]

This is going to antagonize the anti-sola-scripturists.

[2nd amendment mama]

Bookmark....this ought to be good.....getting the popcorn ready.

[smvoice]

Yeah, I give this one at least a 1000-post rating.

[Rashputin]

". . .reintroductionof premillennium doctrine since the mid-1800s and its incorporation in evangelical commentaries and literature."

ROTFLOL

"Reintroduction" like the reintroduction of a whole new set of books by the "Rat With a Hat" and the writings of Ellen G White that peddle the same set of lies all the other "premillennial" hucksters and gullible sheep peddle.

Anyone who believes His Word was even partially hidden for eighteen hundred years is by definition saying Jesus Christ lied when He said the Holy Spirit would guide His sheep to all Truth and His Church would be a shining city on a hill for all to see.

Sola Yourselfa disguisred as "Scripture Alone" without fail leads to the worship of Self Alone.

[Petrosius]

So the early Church was reliable in telling us what were the books of the Bible but not in telling us what they meant?

[IronJack]

And the opening salvo is fired ...

[Petrosius]

We as evangelicals emphatically agree with Hodge that “the true method of theology… assumes that the Bible contains all the facts or truths which form the contents of theology.”

At least Hodge admits that this is only an assumption and not based on the Bible itself. Indeed it is anti-Biblical. It is only because our Lord established a teaching church founded upon the apostles that their writings, by their acceptance by the Church, are accorded the status of Scripture.

The fact that something was taught in the first century does not make it right (unless taught in the canonical Scriptures)…

The fact that there are canonical Scriptures is only because the authoritative teaching Church established by Jesus Christ had declared them so.

In the two centuries that led up to the edict, two crucial interpretive errors found their way into the church that made conditions ripe for the paradigm shift incident to the Edict of Milan. The second century fathers failed to keep clear the biblical distinction between Israel and the church. Then, the third century fathers abandoned a more-or-less literal method of interpreting the Bible in favor of Origen’s allegorical-spiritualized hermeneutic.

And by what authority does the author have to declare these errors?

[wmfights]

Good read, thanks.

[Salvation]

**Sola Yourselfa **

I like that.

[redgolum]

Ok I will play.

If the Bible is not to be used for authority according the Bible, then why is the Bible authoritative on saying it is not authoritative?

And by what authority do you have to say the author doesn't have authority?

Yes, I am poking the bear. In an odd mood today.

[Rashputin]

It’s the final and fatal stage of the heresy of Rabbinical Protestantism Luther built on the heresy of Core and sold to the nobility in his day.

[imardmd1]

This is going to antagonize the anti-sola-scripturists.

Because it shows that their whole methodology (of taking credit for what The God Alone has done in progressively revealing, transmitting, and preserving His Infallible Holy Scripture) is false.

[Petrosius]

If the Bible is not to be used for authority according the Bible, then why is the Bible authoritative on saying it is not authoritative?

I never said that the Bible is not to used for authority, only that it is not the only authority.

Yes, I am poking the bear.

We can still be friends.

[imardmd1]

So the early Church was reliable in telling us what were the books of the Bible but not in telling us what they meant?

'Scuse me, but in the beginning there was no "Church" as you term it. There were only churches, each with its own appointed elders of spiritually mature leaders (at first discipled Jews), and owing allegiance and dominion to no other entity than The Risen Christ and The Holy Ghost, Who is the Author of the Preserved Text.

[Just mythoughts]

To find later

[editor-surveyor]

>> “From a political perspective, Constantine’s Edict of Milan, issued in AD 313, constituted the formal beginning of a major paradigm shift that signaled the end of the ancient world and the beginning of the medieval period. That edict legitimated Christianity and impressed upon it the Empire’s stamp of approval.” <<

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Lots of oatmeal there, but essentially all that Conastantine did was use the power of government to outlaw Yeshua’s Way, and replace it with his own dismal Paganism.

Everything that Coinstantine’s church holds is completely contrary to the scriptures that Yeshua constantly quoted when he would say “It is written...”

And no “Church Father” survived into the second century. Paganism and Gnosticism blended together to the point that by the early 4th century there were no church leaders remaining that were sufficiently grounded in the scriptures to offer any resistance to Constantine’s pagans.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “I never said that the Bible is not to used for authority, only that it is not the only authority.” <<

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Yes, you papists are always quick to defend Satan’s authority, as codified in the “oral traditions.”
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[roamer_1]

I never said that the Bible is not to used for authority, only that it is not the only authority.

All Protestants recognize other authorities - Sola-scriptura declares the Bible the final authority.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “The fact that there are canonical Scriptures is only because the authoritative teaching Church established by Jesus Christ had declared them so.” <<

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Vomit!

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The fact that there are canonical scriptures is because Yeshua’s apostles held to the scriptures that Yeshua affirmed in his everyday communication with them.

The illegitimate body that claims to canonize scripture is completely at odds with the scriptures that Yeshua quoted and thereby confirmed.

The last apostle died 1900 yearas ago.