[editor-surveyor]

Again, mostly agree, but the nonsense that I keep seeing is that “Torah has been cancelled by the perfect sacrifice at the cross” or something close to that, which is in complete disagreement with every word recorded in the gospels as coming from the mouth of Yeshua.

[Buggman]

Oh, that's clearly nonsense, and no Christian really believes it. They're not arguing that the commandment against murder, adultery, or drinking bloog have been abolished. What they mean to say is that the purpose of the Torah's rituals was to point to the Messiah, and now that He has come, they have been set aside with their purpose fulfilled. (Of course, since the NT does speak of keeping the Passover and many of the Feasts point to the 2nd Coming, that's still problematic.) But they've heard it as "The Law has been fulfilled" so often that it's just become a part of their vocabulary, a cliche spoken without really thinking through all the ramifications.

There's another cliche that we have to be aware of and be dillegent to overcome, and that is the idea that anyone who keeps the Sabbath, Feasts, kashrut, etc., does so in order to be saved "by the law" instead of trusting in "grace." This is why I take a personal demand against Gentile Christians (Jewish Christians are another matter) off the table and rephrase the argument: "So you're saying that God sent the King of the Jews to tell Jews to stop being Jewish?"

Most Christians that I get a chance to speak to are rightly horrified that this is the practical implication of what they've always assumed about the NT. They're not antisemitic; in fact, most true Christians love the Jews, even if only abstractly. They just never considered how their understanding of the NT plays out in that regard.

Shalom