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How To Spot a Manipulative Church Leader
Storyline ^ | 19 September 2013 | Donald Miller

Posted on 09/19/2013 12:22:55 PM PDT by Gamecock

I grew up in a small town in Texas and attended a small church. I loved my church. I loved the jovial pastor, all the men in suits who rubbed me on the head as I came in and out of the sanctuary, the kind ladies who always brought us muffins in Sunday School and especially the youth camps we’d go to over the summers. Church was my second home, and it almost feels like I spent more time there than in my own home.

One winter, though, our pastor decided to retire. We threw an enormous party in his honor. I’ll never forget person after person walking to the microphone to tell stories about the many years he’d shepherded our congregation. People cried, we sang, we brought gifts, we ate food, we laughed until late into the night. It took a full month for everybody to say their goodbyes.

I am eternally grateful the first minister I encountered was such a good man.

Because the second minister I encountered wasn’t.

A committee was put in place to replace our pastor and the committee decided to hire a dynamic young man from Louisiana. The man had been a traveling preacher, moving from church to church to perform revivals, to tell people about Jesus. He was a tall man and loud. He flailed his arms as he spoke. He talked about God’s power, about God’s wrath, about God’s love and to be honest he was quite moving. He was incredible at getting people to respond. He had a sharp sense of humor, would occasionally say shocking things to test our loyalty and see if we would turn on him or go with him, he knew the Bible inside and out and knew how to play human emotions like a fiddle. On any given Sunday we would experience a range of emotions from guilt and shame to fear and sometimes joy.

I even remember his first sermon. It was entitled “Appoint those you trust and trust those you appoint.” That should have been an obvious sign to everybody. He was saying, without question, if you hire me to be your pastor, I am the boss. You must never question my authority.

Soon, the entire congregation fell under his spell. We loved it when he delighted in us but feared screwing up. One Sunday he snapped at the man working in the sound booth so sharply the man turned red from embarrassment. The pastor, realizing he’d gone too far, explained, ferociously, that God is a God of excellence and wouldn’t stand for mistakes, even from volunteer sound guys. He then quoted a passage about how we were supposed to be perfect even as Christ is perfect.

Looking back, this was all manipulation. People who care about the truth understand they are capable of self-deception and surround themselves with accountability. This pastor got rid of the accountability. He drove off any elder who wouldn’t submit, once again, quoting scripture and spinning the Bible so that those questioning his motives looked like infidels. He even said he felt justified using violence against them, simply because they refused to trust the leader God had appointed.

What made the situation so difficult is that the church in fact grew. His off-color sense of humor seemed relevant and even worldly while his knowledge of Scripture gave the congregation a sense of security. In fact, I’d say a sense of security is the main reason people were drawn to the church.

• • •

Don Riso and Russ Hudson, perhaps the worlds leading experts on the enneagram, talk about controlling, bully-personalities as being secretly afraid. Many of them had been molested as children and subconsciously believe people are out to get them. Determined to never be molested again, they make themselves big, try to sound tough, try to intimidate people and will never allow themselves to be vulnerable. They insist that anybody close to them be submissive and will lie and cheat to protect themselves and their empire, all the while posing as a righteous hero. When extremely unhealthy, controlling personalities are stressed, they get great relief and a feeling of power by dominating others, even sexually. It is thought that many Priests who have molested young boys did not have a purely sexual motive, but took comfort in dominating young men to gain a sense of security and power, all the while acting as a shepherd in the church.

What happens under the spell of a master manipulator is people unknowingly submit their sense of security to somebody else. They relinquish the responsibility God has given them to govern their own lives to a powerful figure who says to them “look, just do what I say and you’ll be fine.”

What they don’t realize is the extremely insecure manipulator is gaining security from controlling people, not from protecting them. Being wounded himself, he only wants to surround himself by those who are weak and who will not question him. He subconsciously considers this his layer of armor. The manipulated masses are his protection against outside intruders.

Many people came to know Christ under the manipulative pastors regime. And anytime he was questioned, he used his knowledge of Scripture statistics about church growth and Christian conversions (though they were greatly exaggerated) to bolster his case and run off accusers. Most people were afraid to contend with him because they knew he would attack them ferociously.

The church, then, became a revolving door. More than half the people who visited smelled him out and went away, and the pastor didn’t mind this at all. He only wanted the submissive, those who would allow him, using scripture, to guide and command every aspect of their lives. He even posted the names of tithing and non-tithing members in the lobby. Those who disagreed with him were written up as insubordinates to God in letters sent to the entire congregation, humiliating them and running them off for good. He even went as far as to threaten lawsuits.

And yet, as said previously, the church grew, filled with submissive people. The more intuitive walked away rolling their eyes.

The pastor, of course, grew more and more controlling. He told the congregation what they could and couldn’t read, what they could and couldn’t watch on television, what they could and couldn’t see at the movies and even who they could and couldn’t vote for.

• • •

Things grew very dark, however, one evening when the pastor found out one of the elders he wanted to get rid of had visited a bar on the edge of town. The man and his wife had gone on a double date with some friends and went out to the bar to hear a band. Somebody informed the pastor and he had the elder paged and told him to meet him at his office. What unfolded was nothing short of a scolding and a witch hunt. The pastor embarrassed the elder and belittled him and informed the church he’d asked for his resignation from the elder board. The elder hadn’t so much as sipped a beer, but the pastor wanted to get rid of him anyway.

Within a few weeks, the elder took a gun from his gun cabinet, and took his life.

The pastor, of course, felt no remorse, blaming the event on the elders secret life in which he visited bars.

Ultimately, the power-mongering was too much and too many people began to leave. Manipulators, however, do not care to restore anything and will gladly take the ship down with them. They need to feel their power, whether that is to raise somebody up or tear them down. This pastor needed to destroy the church before he left. He slowly fired every member of the staff, then resigned to start a non—profit that mobilized Christians to take up conservative political causes and fight the democrats.

Shortly after he left the church, the pastors own daughter committed suicide in the bathroom their family home. He had one other child, a college-bound freshman. To this day, his son will not speak to him, and the pastor does not speak of his children. His wife is thought of as a kept woman.

The church, some twenty years later, has not recovered from the destruction. There will never be restoration or reconciliation because the manipulator will never repent.

Repentance, is, after all, an act of vulnerability. Manipulators will not put themselves in a place of vulnerability for fear they will once again be abused. They do not trust anybody. Instead, they demand trust from everybody around them. Those who do not submit are considered enemies.

The devastation from a manipulator goes beyond the loss of life. Too many to count walked away from their faiths because of his tactics. Manipulators are skillful movers of people, so we often see their many accomplishments, but they are even more skilled at hiding the devastation caused behind the scenes. Christian leaders who are manipulators bring people to Christ at the expense of pushing many, many more people away.

Here’s how to smell out a manipulator in a religious setting:

A Christian leader who is manipulative will:

• Never be truly vulnerable. They will never tell stories about their weaknesses. If they do, those stories will be about how they are too strong, too devout and too many other things that are more or less humble brags.

• Always have the true answer, and truth is truth because they said it. The truth is the Bible is complex, but a manipulator knows they can’t get you to submit if they don’t have ALL the answers. Certainly trained pastors have answers, but nobody has all the answers. Manipulators do. They want to tell you how to live.

• They make you jump through hoops. If you want to get married, you must go through hours of classes so they can approve. If you want to be a member, you must sign a contract or a statement of theological belief. Now many wonderful churches do this sort of thing, but when there is a manipulative leader, you’ll normally find an endless number of hurdles to jump over. They want to test you, over and over, to make sure you’re being submissive.

• They will never let you off the hook. A manipulative leader can never, ever let you be fully free in Christ. There must always be something wrong with you or else you will no longer need them and will no longer have to submit.

If you’re in a church with a manipulative leader creating the culture, I believe you should leave. The only way a manipulator stops manipulating is when the manipulation stops working, and by staying, you’re saying to the manipulator that it’s working. If you fight them, you’ll lose.

For more about dealing with manipulative people, I recommend Harriet Braiker’s book Who’s Pulling Your Strings.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: lutheran; manipulative

1 posted on 09/19/2013 12:22:55 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

2 posted on 09/19/2013 12:26:32 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Gamecock

Very sad story. Lots of weak individuals. I can’t understand the Elders of this church tolerating this. Simply fire that pastor and move on.

The fact that that one elder took his life indicates that there was significant weaknesses. Not only for him personally but for that church as a whole.


3 posted on 09/19/2013 12:32:23 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The part about the suicide of the elder and people leaving their faith because of him gave me pause. Does a true believer leave the church because of the actions of some other man claiming to be a Christian? Does a Christian, who is supposed to see this world as very temporary, find himself in a position where, due to cares of this world, he takes his own life?

But then, I’m one of the ones who would have left rolling my eyes - and had very little respect for those that attend.


4 posted on 09/19/2013 12:37:31 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
Does a Christian, who is supposed to see this world as very temporary, find himself in a position where, due to cares of this world, he takes his own life?

Maybe as a result he was shunned by the very church he loved.

Matthew 12:20 a bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not quench, until he brings justice to victory;

There are many bruised reeds among us.

5 posted on 09/19/2013 12:58:10 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Gamecock

It sounds like that guy was all about legalism. He himself clearly didn’t really know Christ. He totally misappropriated that scripture about being perfect because your father in heaven is perfect. Jesus made that statement (to be perfect as our Father in Heaven is perfect) in reference to our motives and the intentions of our hearts, not in regards to never making a simple human error or mistake (like the sounds guy’s accident with the volume). It’s matters of the heart that Jesus was talking about. This guy clearly has no heart. He was just another Pharisee.
The Pharisees were all about obeying the traditions of the Law and totally missed the whole point of the Law itself. In Matthew 12, for instance, some Pharisees saw Jesus in the grain fields with His disciples. His disciples were hungry, so they began picking heads of grain and eating them. This was on the Sabbath. When the Pharisees saw it, they said to Jesus “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.” Jesus reminded the Pharisees that several hundred years earlier, King David took some of the consecrated bread and ate it - something that was only lawful for the priests to do. Then Jesus told them that He was Lord of the Sabbath, and reminded them that the Sabbath was made for man - man was not made for the Sabbath. Then He quoted a powerful verses from the book of Hosea, that this pastor guy you’re talking about needs to also read and understand. That verse is this: “I desire mercy, not sacrifice.” Hosea 6:6.

Jesus also said the two greatest commandments are to love the Lord your God with all your heart, and to love your neighbor as yourself. He said that all of the Law was summed up in those two commandments. Everything in life hinges on those two commands. Man’s greatest sin is pride. What is pride? It is a failure to love. Sounds like that pastor of yours was more a son of Satan rather than a child of God.


6 posted on 09/19/2013 1:00:40 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Gamecock

then resigned to start a non—profit that mobilized Christians to take up conservative political causes and fight the democrats.”

Who on earth is this article referring to?????

I think the author should name names


7 posted on 09/19/2013 1:01:47 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Gamecock
Don Riso and Russ Hudson, perhaps the worlds leading experts on the enneagram, talk about controlling, bully-personalities as being secretly afraid. Many of them had been molested as children and subconsciously believe people are out to get them.


When you start talking about the enneagram you slide from Christianity to new ageism. Just look at the bio's of Don Riso and Russ Hudson, new age hucksters. The writer of the article is also hugely suspect in promoting and quoting this stuff.
8 posted on 09/19/2013 1:08:20 PM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Telling people who to vote for, only liberal and black churches are allowed to do that now a days.


9 posted on 09/19/2013 1:09:54 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: cuban leaf
Does a true believer leave the church because of the actions of some other man claiming to be a Christian?

Leaving the church does not mean you stop being a Christian, it is simply a building. You can always look for a new building of like-minded people to worship God with.

10 posted on 09/19/2013 1:11:19 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: RBStealth

bump


11 posted on 09/19/2013 1:12:23 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Gamecock
The Episcopal church I attended as a child has a wonderful minister. He was a recovered alcoholic who was saved from his addiction by God. Everyone loved him as he was always warm, friendly and caring. His sermons were always educational, helpful and insightful.

One day the diocese decided to move him to a cathedral in a large city. It broke our hearts, but we understood that he had no choice.

The new minister was a bully who enjoyed throwing his weight around and browbeating people. He was also a legalistic prig who did away with the choir ("The entire congregation should be the choir!"), forbade any talking in church ("It's the temple of God!"), instituted high church practices including chanting the entire liturgy, and drove away half of the church members in his first year.

Finally, after ruining this wonderful little country church he became Catholic! He left with his wife (a priest with a wife!) and went to work for the Catholic Church performing administrative duties.

Who accuses the brethren? Who attempts to sow discord in the Church? I'll give you a hint: He is the one who said, "I will make myself like the Most High." - Is. 14:13

12 posted on 09/19/2013 1:12:45 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: Gamecock

bookmark


13 posted on 09/19/2013 2:00:23 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Gamecock

This is a terrible story. It is about abuse.

Follow Jesus and not pastors.

At the same time, there should be a level of commitment on your part to the church you attend. Don’t allow anyone to easily run you off. On the other hand, don’t be quick in your own mind to leave.

The big question for me has to do with the pastor’s behavior/actions: Is it illegal, immoral, unethical, or unbiblical?

If not, then it’s just a difference of opinion or a different idea or approach.

If it is, then start paying attention to other decisions/actions of that pastor.


14 posted on 09/19/2013 3:32:35 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: GeronL

>>Does a true believer leave the church because of the actions of some other man claiming to be a Christian?<<

Leaving the church does not mean you stop being a Christian, it is simply a building. You can always look for a new building of like-minded people to worship God with.


That was a poor choice of words on my part. By “leave the church” I meant the Church as described in the bible. The “body of believers”. I.e. stop being a believer.

I agree with you on your point 100%


15 posted on 09/19/2013 5:33:08 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

oh right.


16 posted on 09/19/2013 5:49:18 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Gamecock

I think I would have objected when he laid into the sound guy. Who doesn’t make mistakes? Even if it would have been him or me, I’d have said something.


17 posted on 09/20/2013 8:51:28 AM PDT by onedoug
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Sounds like I would have been leery after the first sermon when he was essentially saying he was “da boss”. I do not consider pastors the leader, I consider them messengers and teachers.


18 posted on 09/20/2013 8:56:51 AM PDT by GeronL
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Yeah, the thing with the sound guy was horrible. I’m no Bible expert, but doesn’t it say we should be patient, longsuffering, and kind? And even if someone does something wrong, (and making a mistake as the sound guy doesn’t even count as that,) you’re supposed to confront the wrongdoer one one one, privately, not embarrass them in front of the entire congregation. That would have been it for me; I’d have been out of there.


19 posted on 09/20/2013 10:20:16 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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