Replies

Your indoctrination is thorough and you are convinced that everything they have told to is the only way that you can be saved...I have sent you Scriptures which directly refute your thoughts about saints and their abilities, and you come back with church dogma. That will send you straight to hell, yes. -wvk

You're right lizzy, and I apologize for that last remark as it's not up to me where someone ends up. However, you certainly cannot find any scriptural basis for the Catholic idea of purgatory. It just isn't there. As for your quote from Matthew (which didn't bother to say what chapter it would be found), what does that have to do with the price of eggs?

Again, you place emphasis when you ask, do I understand “the faith”. But you obviously mean the organization referred to as the Roman Catholic Church where you place your faith. That is where the problem really begins.

You see, I do have faith, a profound faith in Jesus Christ and can know that God has declared me to be a sinner. I admit it, I am a sinner, just like Paul spoke of himself numerous times in various letters which we call it Epistles. But just like Paul, I'm not concerned in the least about my future place with God. I have complete assurance that even though I am a putrid man on this earth, that by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, through faith, God no longer sees my sin and has given me a total wash in redemption. I am fully cleansed from the bonds of sin and the law.

You can remain right where you are, and I will lose no sleep. I rest soundly, sleeping every night. I can do that because I believe in Jesus. You cannot provide Scripture that will justify everything your church claims. Even in your responses to me, you continue to spout church dogma and doctrine, and use Scripture without context. Your organization does a great job of indoctrination, and it starts from birth placing all of the legalistic requirements which will lead directly to the pits. I'm not saying there aren't some Roman Catholics who will be saved, but those that rely on your mother church and all of its misplaced ideas, unfounded in the word of God, should know that there is not going to be anybody that can pray them out of hell.

There is no purgatory. You either make it into heaven by the grace and mercy of God through faith in Christ Jesus, or you risk eternal separation. Eternity is a long, long, long, long, long, long time.

You may think that posting some woman's picture you including some nice words can help someone discover God's truth. If that woman is one of the Catholic saints, she's dead. That would be the last place Truth will be found. Look towards the first and most important place in God. Have a nice life. I am assured of my salvation and will continue to post truth against the heresies from Rome.

Romans 7: ...21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

Romans 8: 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Paul

AMEN! -wvk

As for your quote from Matthew (which didn't bother to say what chapter it would be found), what does that have to do with the price of eggs?
Did you pause to think that I simply forgot the chapter, rather than me not "bothering" to say where it was found, and I thought it was a good verse (maybe it's not to you; if so, I apologize), as you stated that Catholics feel they are the only ones to be saved. The verse states clearly that anything is possible with God [regarding saving].

Purgatory makes great sense. No one enters heaven without getting rid of their filth. Do you think it just "magically" happens that after your heart stops beating, Christ's grace changes you somehow? Why would one not have to go over all the slights, sins, and sorrows they caused to others while here on earth? Very few escape purgatory is my belief. And one could never be prayed out of hell. Do you think Catholics believe that?

That's the beauty of purgatory (Jesus gives you the opportunity to improve), however, some "levels" of purgatory are just like hell, except you're looking up to the glorious future of heaven, and not down into hellfire. (As I was a great sinner as a lukewarm Lutheran, purgatory appealed to me; just one of the reasons that I became strongly interested in converting.)

Several saints have had visions of heaven, hell, and purgatory. To leave them out of the mix, is to shortchange oneself spiritually I believe. They are Christ's front line; they have fought for Him like True soldiers, and many have died martyrs for that very reason. St. John Vianney - "We must say many prayers for the souls of the faithful departed, for one must be so pure to enter heaven."