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To: A child of Yah
Child of Jah, you probably know that Jesus said to the Pharisees, "Before Abraham came to be, I AM." Revelation calls Him "the Lamb that was slain before the foundation of the world." The Gospel of John begins with the amazing passage that says the "Word" was with God, and was God."

So this second Person of the Trinity pre-existed eternally. He is co-eternal with the Father, according to Scripture.

When "the Word" was made flesh and dwelt amongst us, He took up and assumed a human nature and was conceived in the womb of the Virgin. Very recently: only about 2,000 years ago. But that same divine Person was always God through all eternity.

28 posted on 10/01/2013 10:28:12 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("OK, youse guys, pair off by threes." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

***So this second Person of the Trinity pre-existed eternally. He is co-eternal with the Father, according to Scripture.***

Hi Mrs. Don-o ... pretty kool dual effort going on ... smiles

I guess you can see we were posting within seconds of each other, and I do believe the Father/Son are one, and if you have seen the Son, you have seen the Father according to the Gospel of John 14:9-11, but I think I’m being misunderstood in my assertion of the “Trinity”.

Maybe I can state it clearer somehow about why I look at it a little bit differently than others.

Trinity: 1) Father - 2) Son - 3) Holy Spirit = ONE
All 3 are One and the same, but it seems like Number 3 is already stated in Number 1 ... being that the Father is the Holy Spirit already as written in the Gospel of John 4:24.

Then to elaborate further:
There’s a Spiritual realm, and than there’s a physical realm-(flesh body). Father/Spiritual realm - Son/physical realm.

All that I’m trying to state is that the Father is the same thing as the Holy Spirit, and it’s just duplicating what is already known, that the Father is Spirit.

I guess I tend to look at it this way because after many years of discussing the Trinity with those of the world that think Christians worship 3 Gods instead of one, that it got me to thinking that the Holy Spirit is already God the Father, so why duplicate it again to end up with 3 forms.

It just made more sense to me that there is a Spiritual realm and a physical realm to explain it better, and at least I got some people to think about this 3 God theory they keep throwing around town, and I’ve basically narrowed it down to a 2 God theory so far ... smiles and shakes my head.

So I do feel like I’ve made some progress being that their foreign teachings of their book do state that Christ Jesus is the Word and Spirit of God-(quran/surah 4:171), which makes them rethink their stand.

They even thought the Virgin Mary was part of the Trinity too, because that’s what their book states, and I just shake my head and wonder how in the world did they come up with such stuff, but then again, the fruit of their tree explains it all.

I wanted to ask you something else, but it is on a different subject and I don’t want to throw the thread, plus I’ve already taken up enough space here already ... smiles again


29 posted on 10/01/2013 12:23:58 PM PDT by A child of Yah (I once was lost, but now I'm found, twas grace that set me free ... thank you LORD)
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