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To: ShadowAce

“Calvinism is nothing more than a cult.”


Well gee, thanks for dumping on ALL the Reformers, from Luther, Calvin, Knox, to the Huguenots who died in the tens of thousands for the faith, to the Scottish Covenators, the English Puritans, to the origins of this country itself. All damned Cultists you say!

I think the real Cultists are the ones who dump on Christians just because they want to save the golden calf in their lives that whispers to them that they saved themselves by their own personal choosing. Add works and they’re no better than Papists. But we’ll stick with the scripture which says:

“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.”
(Joh 15:16)


24 posted on 10/01/2013 7:19:18 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; ShadowAce
ShadowAce: 'Calvinism is nothing more than a cult'

GPH: 'thanks for dumping on ALL the Reformers, '

How exactly did SA dump on All the Reformatters?

You can talk about him blanket naming Calvinism, but not others -- the only lumping of Luther, Calvin, John Smith, Knox, Ellen G White, Charles Taze Russell etc. is in your post, GPH

31 posted on 10/01/2013 11:44:35 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; ShadowAce
oh and the myth of the Huguenots sounds nice, but they were basically the losers in a civil war that they started.

Nice things didn't happen in the religious wars of the 1600s -- both sides were to blame (well actually it became multi-sided after the first few pieces) and nationalism, politics all came to play their roles

The Hugues in particular fired the first shotS and then lost and were killed. If they had won (as their brethren in England did), then Catholics would have been killed. Bloody, not nice, but the facts.

32 posted on 10/01/2013 11:46:46 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; PieterCasparzen; AnalogReigns
Even something as basic as representative democracy...or a democratic republic (a Free Republic) is a variation on rule by elders (representatives) which was pioneered and developed by

Sorry this was pioneered and developed by the Graeco-Roman world, 2000 years before Jean.

The very terms we use (Senate etc.) derives from the Roman Republic.

Also, you are wrong with Even assumptions such as rule of law (same law for everyone...not a divine right of kings)and, title-deeds for property ownership, and free-market capitalism...all in some measure are due to -- this is again dating from the Classical world or from Saxon common law systems

33 posted on 10/01/2013 11:49:22 PM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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