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To: RedMonqey
Some people believe it worth the risk of living life to the fullest in pursuit of their passions, whether it be the scouts, missionary work...

Well, there's true missionary work in Christ...
...
...and then there's counterfeit proselytization...

Take some of those who proselyted for Jim Jones, for example...
If we could place a spotlight upon say a few individuals who successfully recruited some people to come to Jonestown in Guyana...
...and say none of these spotlighted individuals actually wound up giving any koolaid to anybody there [IoW, they weren't active murderers]
...In fact, let's go further & say they were among the few who didn't commit suicide there...
...I don't think in hindsight you would be glorifying the "individual freedom" or "pursuing life to its fullest" theme-kick you've gotten on...

I mean, these people successfully brought people into a cult whereby the newbies committed suicide -- or were murdered...

And what is true in the physical realm (death) has a spiritual parallel: Eternal death, what the book of Revelation calls the second death...IoW counterfeit missionary work resulting in eternal death simply isn't laudable...

You stated: That's what individual freedom is all about..

Much to your potential chagrin, Jesus...for example...didn't glorify ALL of the proselytization under the sun -- as you might do:

Allow me to give you one example where Jesus didn't hoorah the proselyting activity of the Pharisees:

15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are." (Matthew 23:15)

So go right ahead, RM...if you might chide me on my lack of "freedom" approaches on this...just be sure you chide Jesus, too for His lack of tolerance on that matter.

Hey, if you want to glorify...
...without qualifications or caveats...
...ALL proselytization under the sun...
...whether it was the Rajneeshees in Oregon in the 1980s -- where some of the women were raped at that cult...
...or David Berg's cult (Children of God/The Family), whereby Berg allegedly was guilty of pedophilia & other deviant sex (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Berg)...
...or wiccan witchcraft recruiting teens...
...or Muslim missionary work that's been done out of Pakistan going back to at least the 1980s...
...etc etc etc...

...as go right ahead, your accountability to a living God will come...

As for me...no...

I don't laud those Rajneeshees who recruited women to come to Oregon to be raped...
...or those who conned some into joing Berg's cult...only to be sexually abused (Koresh was another one like this)...
...or Heaven's Gate recruiters in San Diego who "missionary-ized" gullibles to believing that suicide was the doorway to getting in touch with aliens...

But if you want to treat "missionaries" as a one-size-fits all -- with zero recognition of any counterfeiters out there to the "real thing"
-- and frame their activity as allegedly "living life to the fullest"...
...then I gotta say it: You really haven't taken a very close look at the broad scope of "religion" -- have you?

45 posted on 10/03/2013 5:46:58 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Well, there's true missionary work in Christ... ... ...and then there's counterfeit proselytization...

Nice attempt at deflection but I 'll save Bible class for another time...another thread....

Not that I'm advesre to doing so but I find them counter productive and they always devolve to name calling and the "My faith is Holier than than thou"

It doesn't change minds or save soul(imho) and creates ill will among Christians of all sects.

Thanks but no thanks
46 posted on 10/03/2013 8:47:24 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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