In any case, I expect this kind of thing—although a reporter who gets an extraordinary opportunity of an interview with a new Pope and neglects to record or take notes is even beyond what I was expecting. Lies, distortions, and the rest, yes. But this is pretty unbelievable.
In any case, I’m still suspending judgment on Pope Francis. For me, the main thing is to give him and his chosen group of Cardinals time to broom out the Vatican—which I hope he does! I was very impressed with Pope Benedict as a theologian. I read most of what he wrote, both before and after becoming Pope. But he seemed unable to broom out all those guys in the hierarchy who were undermining him at every opportunity.